"People who don't believe in God shouldn't live in the USA"

[Bluebear]

From a caller to the Steve Lavelle show on WBZ(Boston) radio last night.

The caller's premise is that we are endowed by "our" Creator with certain inalienable rights, and the Constitution and Declaration are not living, breathing documents but law. So, anyone who does not believe our rights come from on High should be stripped of American citizenship. I believe this falls in line with what George H. W. Bush thought when he said atheists should not be citizens.

P.S. "I'm a Bush man," the caller stated firmly, and that oral sex in the White House is certainly worse than anything Fitzgerald could be investigating. :crazy:

[CottonBear]

1. What if the "Creator" is the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

I'm just asking ;)?

[Bluebear]

2. I am just beyond words sometime.

There is a Rush-saturated third of this country that seems beyond hope or constructive dialogue!

[ikojo]

5. Not only Rush (or oxycontin) saturated but

Fallwell and Robertson saturated as well. I don't think Bush's approval ratings will ever dip below 30% because he will always have the fundie element on his side.

[ulysses]

3. those who hold this opinion

should jump up my ass.

[txaslftist]

4. Well, if he's a "bush man"...

I can see why he doesn't favor oral sex.

[ktowntennesseedem]

8. Wait a minute--does that qualify as a sex thread?!?!?

:evilgrin:

[Az]

6. Tough cookies, I'm not leaving

I think there are still a few things worth fighting for here. If you want to take me out then we are gonna have problems.

[ContraBass Black]

7. Be careful.

'Tis blasphemous to suggest that others were created with such rights.

[JanMichael]

9. About time to rumble, eh?

What a numbnut.

[givemebackmycountry]

10. SHIT....

"The caller's premise is that we are endowed by "our" Creator with certain inalienable rights"

The creator left me a little "short" in the "endowed" department.

[Puregonzo1188]

11. May I suggest for the caller

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0806505494.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,32,-59_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[nemo137]

12. Man, somewhere in heaven, Roger Williams is slamming his head into a wall

right next to James Madison. This fella has what they planned out ass-backwards.

[LostInAnomie]

13. If dumb shits like him are going to be calling the shots...

... I'm cool with leaving. Sounds like there is going to be a HUGE brain-drain up th Canada.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

14. I'm sure the idiot was only referring to the Christian god.

Without realizing it's the same one as Judaism and Islam.

[Walt Starr]

19. What the fool does not realize is the "Creator" mentioned in the DOI is

NOT THE CHRISTIAN GOD!

Jefferson wrote the document and was referring to the Creator recognized by Deism, not Christianity.

[truthisfreedom]

15. well, bad oral sex maybe.

but good head is hard to come by... and should be revered.

[B Calm]

16. They don't care about Exxon Mobil quarterly profit of $9.9 billion

either, just as long as they have their demon in the White House..

[jmm]

17. The "Bush man" obviously failed high school civics

The Declaration is not law and the last time I read the Constitution there was nothing in there about stripping people of their citizenship because they want to enjoy the first amendment.

[Zynx]

18. The Declaration is not a legal document.

Good God almighty, will these people learn some history for once?

[Deja Q]

20. Tell that to the CEOs who are moving American JOBS out of the USA.

[No Exit]

21. DEPORT ALL REPUBLICANS...

...they are the most godless people in the world.

[BooScout]

22. This is why I'm leaving.....

I get the hell out of here in two weeks. UK her we come.... Can't wait to leave the freakazoids like this guy behind. Let them run all the rational people out of the country and see how thee likes it in the toilet.:eyes:

[Ladyhawk]

23. Great! Will the caller pay for me to emigrate and become a citizen of,

say, New Zealand? :shrug:

[Iris]

24. jesus. . . . just, jesus.

I mean, what can you say to someone so devoid of any sense of perspective?

[smirkymonkey]

25. "People who are hopelessly, irretrievably fucking stupid shouldn't

live in the USA."

I'll take my chances with Atheists over Idiots any day.

[WCGreen]

26. The creator is our parents, they create us....

They bequethed freedom and democracy to us....

It is up to us to perserve and strengthen democracy for those we have created...

[foreigncorrespondent]

27. Someone should remind him that...

...believing in God, and being a religious fanatical idiot and two entirely different things!

[anitar1]

28. Did he say which cult he was a member of? n/t

[WritingIsMyReligion]

29. Well, fuck THAT Bill of Rights, then.

:sarcasm:

Do Fundies EVER read the Constitution??

:crazy::crazy:

[LiberalPersona]

30. Quick and simple response to that crap

Then I guess we should've sent George Washington, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson packing because they didn't believe in the Christian God? Oh wait... If it weren't for them, we wouldn't even be here!

[PurityOfEssence]

31. the Declaration is a press release, the Constitution is the law

The Declaration of Independence was a position paper done under the strife of extreme circumstances. It never was a set of laws.

There is no mention on a supreme being in the entirety of the mechanics of the Constitution. The only mention of such a supernatural being is at the very end, and it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE LAWS CONTAINED.

The only reference to a big whatever is at the very end: "the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth." This was a legal definition of when it was agreed upon, and even here, an alternate and secular expression of the date is given.

What's more important is that the last "law" written is Article 6, section 3 (The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.)

Within the body of the Constitution, this last stipulation is the ONLY reference to religion, and even there it doesn't allude to a big Witchy Man. IT IS THE LAST LAW WRITTEN IN THE BODY OF THE DOCUMENT. That means something.

Upon being written, the states weren't happy, so to pass the thing, the first ten amendments (the Bill of Rights) was written, and it is EXTREMELY telling that the first guarantee was this: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The concept of god is to be kept out of our government. it's not just a question of which religion is to have sway, NO RELIGION is to have any voice in government. This is obvious and people who have problems with this are either ignorant or attempting to muscle others. We were intended to be a nation of logic and thought, not superstition, fantasy and the self-proclaimed right of aristocracy to subjugate and fuck others from some sense of impunity.

Sex is much worse than treason, isn't it?

(Sorry to rant here; you're obviously of a similar opinion.)

[Nikki Stone 1]

32. Oral sex is worse than putting national security at risk?

When Clinton's penis sets a bomb at this guy's subway stop, let me know.