Name the Democratic Senators who will lean over backwards for Alito

[merbex]

and B*

[acmejack]

1. Liebermann

[sinkingfeeling]

2. Mark Pryor

[tritsofme]

3. Ben Nelson, Max Baucus, and maybe Joe Lieberman

those are the only ones that come off the top of my heads as very likely votes for Scalito.

[LynneSin]

10. Joe Lieberman - see I knew it - shame shame shame!!

He has supported every filibuster we have had.

But we just assume because he's hawkish on war that Joe is another Zell Miller.

Joe has an extremely favorable rating with NARAL and Planned Parenthood.

[Mass]

4. Nelson (NE), Pryor.

[...of J.Temperance]

5. Definately Ben Nelson

I'm not sure about the others, I'd like to HOPE not.

[tx_dem41]

6. I would say that none are sure at the moment....we should be

concentrating on Republican senators that will possibly vote against....Specter, Collins, Snowe, Voinovich.

[Mass]

Chafee - He has to justify his endorsement by NARAL.

[tx_dem41]

13. D'oh...of course...

And remember that Specter and Chafee are on the judiciary committee.

[bigscott]

9. Lieberman for sure

Why can't we run a real Dem against him in CT????:wtf:

[tx_dem41]

12. Why do you say Lieberman for sure?

Nice negative way to start off one hell of a political battle.

[LynneSin]

7. I think we have the filibuster - Reid has pretty much assured us that

Let's not start assuming the worst on anyone.

Instead of posting frantic threads like this where we assume someone is going to vote against the filibuster what we need to do is write EVERYBODY - no exceptions.

Case in point. I can almost guarentee that Joe Lieberman will get slammed in this thread as a Bush supporter. ANd yet Lieberman has been one of our best allies in the fight against radical judical nominations.

So instead of wasting our time on guess who will support him let's start our letter writing, faxing and phone calling and letting all of our senators know this is not an acceptable choice

[merbex]

16. By identifying those Senators we can focus our efforts

rather than spread them thinly

[babylonsister]

8. Good question; I'm also curious.

Those dems who have thought whomever the blivet selects is okay because it's his decision to make, might change their tune given the many obvious failures this past year.

[OKNancy]

11. I'm not sure Lieberman will go along

He has many faults, but he has always been 100% on our side on social issues, especially choice.

[Nikki Stone 1]

14. Lieberman

Sad to say, that was the first name that came to mind.

[hippiegranny]

58. But he has always been on record as being pro-choice.

I don't agree about Lieberman.

[CTD]

15. Lieberman for sure. Probably Landrieu also.

They both ought to just switch parties and get it over with. They both vote more reliably with the Repugs than with the Dems.

[tx_dem41]

17. Silly statement...

check their voting records, before you make silly statements next time.

[CTD]

20. Fine. It *seems* like they vote more reliably with the Repugs

Every time a vote is high profile enough that the second tier political junkies like myself are paying attention (I'm a junkie, but not nearly as hardcore as many here), it seems they are voting with the opposition.

But, no. I didn't look up their voting records.

[tx_dem41]

25. I appreciate the response.

Sorry for the harshness of my first response.

[long_green]

19. Mary Landrieu is not as bad as Joementum...

she's just so determined to stay in office. Her father and brother have more guts than she does.

[Mass]

22. On these issues, Lieberman is a lot better than her

(look at his vote record on social issues).

[...of J.Temperance]

27. Hey

I've not seen you before...you have the same avatar as I do...oh heck, and I was unique :(

[OKNancy]

29. NARAL gives Landrieu ZERO, Lieberman - 100%

IF it all comes down to Choice, then I don't think Lieberman would go with the Republicans

[...of J.Temperance]

30. NARAL never USED to give Landrieu a zero

And Planned Parenthood have given her money too for her campaigns.

[OKNancy]

34. Hey, I love Mary

I'm just reporting facts.
I think she will stay with the Dems on this one FWIW

[...of J.Temperance]

41. Well...okay then

She will stay with us on this one.

[Nikki Stone 1]

42. Really?

Where can we see these ratings?

[OKNancy]

46. See post 31

I linked to the votesmart/NARAL rankings

[...of J.Temperance]

26. You leave Senator Landrieu alone

I'm tired of people beating up on her.

[tx_dem41]

32. I agree with you. n/t

[...of J.Temperance]

40. Good

Not too surprising though. You're from Dallas I see...I usually get along very well with Dallas folk...especially boys from Dallas ;)

[tx_dem41]

45. I was born and raised in Louisiana..

Shreveport and then New Orleans. I lived about 3 doors down from Moon Landrieu's sister and the Landrieu family (quite large) was over there all the time (including Mary). Admittedly, I had a huge crush on her. :)

[...of J.Temperance]

48. Oh WELL, that's EVEN better!

From Louisiana :)

That's a nice story of yours there...and I think there's like 600 members of the Landrieu family ;) They're fab, I worship them.

[AnnInLa]

63. Mary is plenty pissed at "bush and them" right now

I don't think it's likely that she would vote for ANYTHING proposed by this admin.

[Savannah Progressive]

18. Well here are the Repugnik Lites who voted for Roberts

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_member.php?vote_id=3627

AR Sr Senator Blanche L. Lincoln Democrat Y
AR Jr Senator Mark Pryor Democrat Y
CO Jr Senator Ken Salazar Democrat Y
CT Sr Senator Christopher J. Dodd Democrat Y
CT Jr Senator Joseph I. Lieberman Democrat Y
DE Jr Senator Thomas Richard Carper Democrat Y
FL Sr Senator Bill Nelson Democrat Y
LA Sr Senator Mary L. Landrieu Democrat Y
MI Sr Senator Carl Levin Democrat Y
MT Sr Senator Max S. Baucus Democrat Y
ND Sr Senator Gaylord Kent 'Kent' Conrad Democrat Y
NE Jr Senator E. Benjamin 'Ben' Nelson Democrat Y
NM Jr Senator Jeff Bingaman Democrat Y
OR Sr Senator Ron Wyden Democrat Y
SD Sr Senator Tim P. Johnson Democrat Y
VT Sr Senator Patrick J. Leahy Democrat Y
WA Sr Senator Patty Murray Democrat Y
WI Sr Senator Herbert H. 'Herb' Kohl Democrat Y
WI Jr Senator Russell D. Feingold Democrat Y
WV Sr Senator Robert C. Byrd Democrat Y
WV Jr Senator John D. 'Jay' Rockefeller Democrat Y
ND Jr Senator Byron L. Dorgan Democrat-NPL Y

Does anyone really think we can keep all these in line and in opposition to the Nomination? Does anyone really think we can "Bork" this nominee? The Repugniks have their next Fascist picked for the court. How long before the Miranda Warning is a suggestion to the Court?

We all know that even with our expanded Fund Raising efforts, the Repugniks are raising half again as much money as we are. http://www.opensecrets.org/parties/index.asp

Democratic Party $122,661,617
Republican Party $189,161,846

Anyone really think that the Repugniks, and Repugnik lite above will oppose this nominee? Might as well get used to the idea of Justice Alito on the Fascist wing of the Supreme Court.

[merbex]

21. Without even really looking closely I can cross at least 11 off this list

with regard to Alito

[Mass]

24. A lot can be crossed - not sure concerning Byrd.

He has been blasting liberal judges a lot. He is the only one I have a doubt one way or the other.

[KoKo]

47. Probably half of that group will vote for him.

Dodd, Byrd, Dorgan and Rockefeller might deflect. Who knows...at this point what they will do, though. I've given up waiting for the "Filibuster" that will never come.

[ArkDem]

23. Blanche Lincoln

[...of J.Temperance]

28. Why?

I must say, that's an odd choice.

[ArkDem]

49. She votes often with the administration. She voted for Roberts.

What is odd about her choice? She is no liberal and never has been.

[...of J.Temperance]

57. Oh

I always thought she came across as a moderate. Let's face it MOST of them voted for Roberts unfortunately.

Lincoln's better than Hutchinson though hey? I know Pryor replaced Hutchinson and Lincoln replaced Bumpers. But we can count on her for 80% of stuff, just like Senator Landrieu.

That's how I think of it anyhow.

[OKNancy]

31. If pro-Choice is the most important factor

then here are Democrats we need to worry about

NARAL ratings for Democratic Senators

Lowest rated Dems:

Mark Pryor - 0
Thomas Carper - 20%
Mary Landrieu - 0
Mark Dayton - 20%
Kent Conrad =20%
Byron Dorgan - 20%
Ben Nelson - 0
Jeff Binghaman - 20
Harry Reid - 20
Jay Rockefeller - 20

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=003432M

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I'm pretty sure Reid and Rockefeller will not go with the Repubs.
I bet Landrieu won't either.

[tx_dem41]

35. Out of that list, the only ones I would be worried about are..

Nelson and Pryor.

[OKNancy]

37. I agree

and I won't hate them if they go with the nominee either. Each Senator needs to vote what they feel is right. For example Feingold voted for Roberts. I don't hold it aganst him at all.

I DO hope there is a nasty fight - LOL.

[Nikki Stone 1]

51. Got it. Thanks.

...

[seabeyond]

33. this is a good thread. lets attack the dems BEFORE we even

know if they need attacking. lets make up stories to attack dems.

yea

i am a dem. right

[merbex]

39. I am not attacking - I merely want to know who I have to pressure

or remind that they have a D next to their name

[seabeyond]

43. cool. how are the other posts doing

i am not reading. so much hyperbole flying around, isnt productive. pressuring, communicating with dems, supporting....... i am all for

[mtnester]

36. Here are the Dems who supported him in 1990

borrowed from this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2199840&mesg_id=2200543


http://www.confirmthem.com/?p=1762


"...I thought it might be instructive to take a look back to Judge Alito’s first confirmation - in April of 1990. He was confirmed by unanimous consent - reported favorably from the Democrat-controlled Judiciary Committee by none other than Joe Biden.

Better yet - nineteen currently serving Senate Democrats were part of that unanimous consent."

Christopher Dodd
Joseph Lieberman
Joseph Biden
Daniel Inouye
Tom Harkin
Paul Sarbanes
Barbara Mikulski
Edward Kennedy
John Kerry
Carl Levin
Max Baucus
Harry Reid
Frank Lautenberg
Jeff Bingaman
Kent Conrad
Patrick Leahy
Robert Byrd
Jay Rockefeller
Herbert Kohl

"For those keeping track - that’s almost half the current Democratic caucus in the senate."

[merbex]

38. All any of them have to do is point to examples of why he hasn't lived up

their 1st vote for them

15 years is a looong time with many decisions to conb through

[mtnester]

44. Agreed, but they need to do it strongly, with conviction, and NOW

NOW, NOW while the iron is hot and before they get destroyed by the other side for their vote.

You CANNOT give the enemy that kind of latitude...they need to be proactive...reactive is TOO LATE.

[CTD]

59. There are some VERY liberal Dems on that list.

There are some VERY liberal Dems on that list. Bill Bradley, Ted Kennedy, Barbara Mikulski...

Their support alone makes me suspect that his record at that time did not look anything like it does today. I can't see any of those three just going along with a consensus vote.

[losdiablosgato]

50. Add Kennedy, and Lautenburg to the list

SEN. TED KENNEDY (D-MA): “You Have Obviously Had A Very Distinguished Record, And I Certainly Commend You For Long Service In The Public Interest. I Think It Is A Very Commendable Career And I Am Sure You Will Have A Successful One As A Judge.” (Sen. Ted Kennedy, Committee On The Judiciary, U.S. Senate, Hearing, 4/5/90)

SEN. FRANK LAUTENBERG (D-NJ): “I Believe Mr. Alito Has The Experience And The Skills To Be The Kind Of Judge The Public Deserves – One Who Is Impartial, Thoughtful, And Fair. I Urge The Senate To Confirm His Nomination.” (Sen. Frank Lautenberg, Congressional Record, 4/27/90, p. S5281)

FORMER SEN. BILL BRADLEY (D-NJ): “he Confirmation Of Sam Alito As U.S. Attorney For New Jersey Is Testimony To The Commitment He Has Shown And The Success Of His Efforts As A Law Enforcement Official. I Am Confident That He Will Continue To Do All He Can To Uphold The Laws Of This Nation With The Kind Of Determination And Vigor That Has Been His Trademark In The Past.” (Sen. Bill Bradley, Congressional Record, 12/8/87, p. S17427)

[emulatorloo]

52. READ KENNEDY"S STATEMENT FROM TODAY INSTEAD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2200539

<snip>

October 31, 2005


KENNEDY STATEMENT ON NOMINATION OF JUDGE SAMUEL ALITO TO SUPREME COURT


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Laura Capps/Melissa Wagoner [phone]

Rather than selecting a nominee for the good of the nation and the court, President Bush has picked a nominee whom he hopes will stop the massive hemorrhaging of support on his right wing. This is a nomination based on weakness, not on strength.

After insisting that Harriet Miers shouldn't even get a hearing because she couldn't prove she was extreme enough, the far right has now forced the President to choose a nominee that they think has views as extreme as their own.

There are many serious questions about whether Judge Alito is a mainstream nominee fit to fill the seat of Justice O'Connor. She was able to unite and strengthen our country through her careful, non-ideological approach to the law.

Although he is clearly intelligent and experienced on the bench, that is only the beginning of our inquiry. If confirmed, Alito could very well fundamentally alter the balance of the court and push it dangerously to the right, placing at risk decades of American progress in safeguarding our fundamental rights and freedoms.

<snip>

more at link

[onenote]

53. previous confirmation, 15 years ago is irrelevant

Its his record on the bench that is the basis for opposing him. Kennedy, Lautenberg (and Lieberman for that matter) have traditionally earned 100 percent ratings from NARAL. I don't see them supporting Alito.

onenote

[emulatorloo]

54. This Thread is POINTLESS until we get statements from them

and they will comment on the nom.

You are spinning your wheels until we get some kind of current statement.

See below re Kennedy's statement for example.

[Ready4Change]

55. "Lean over?" "Bend over" is a more accurate term.

They've done it before. Repeatedly. At this point I'm convinced they like it.

Now, can/will they prove me wrong?

[tgnyc]

56. Any guy from an all-white, corn-shucking, Midwest state with 1400 people,

is that Pryor?

[tx_dem41]

60. Nope....

better luck next time.

[ArkDem]

61. I guess he has no Pryor knowledge....

[tx_dem41]

62. Now, that's funny.

You mean Arkansas isn't all-white and a big corn producer?!?

Shocked, shocked I tell ya'!