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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:00 PM
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Bush consulted business groups on SCOTUS nominee
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http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/economy/alito_nomination

Business will support Alito
Corporate America should find some cheer in Alito's strictly conservative judicial philosophy.
October 31, 2005: 11:24 AM EST
By Shaheen Pasha, CNN/Money staff writer

<<snip>>

Judicial philosophy geared more towards business

"Alito's record will bear out that he faithfully interprets the constitution and understands that it comes first and the role of the court should be modest," said Marshall Manson, spokesman for the conservative Coalition for Fair Judiciary. "As businesses look at the court nomination, this philosophy will be key."

And Greg Valliere, chief strategist for Stanford Washington Research Group, added that it's unlikely that Alito would have been nominated if his judicial philosophy wasn't geared towards business interests.

In fact, the White House was reported to have consulted business groups such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the National Association of Manufacturers, headed by former Michigan governor and Bush friend John Engler, over potential nominations in order to garner support for what many see as an uphill battle to seat a conservative judge to replace moderate O'Connor.

And Alito -- who has been compared to Justice Antonin Scalia and dubbed "Scalito" in honor of those similarities -- has already proven that he falls on the conservative side
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:03 PM
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1. So he's of the corporation, for the corporation, by the corporation
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:22 PM
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5. looks that way...
all i can say is our senators better not cave on this.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:03 PM
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2. Corporate America cheers Alito's FASCIST judicial policy.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:17 PM
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3. Kickin, dajoki...this points directly to the fascism factor.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:21 PM
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4. absolutely!!
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:23 PM
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6. Ownership society, yeah. What they do not tell you is who owns who.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:31 PM
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7. And the fascist agenda rolls on while they demagogue on abortion.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:46 PM
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8. alito is just what they want n/t
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 09:22 AM
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12. I think we are to left on social issues and to right on economic
I think if we go pro gun and realize gay marriage is a huge loser for us. The systematic destruction of the middle class is happening. But as long as we do not at least try to meet the middle half way we will lose. Keep in mind the next election is an absolute win. The next president will most likely pick 4 supreme court justices. We have to win or we lose everything. A social moderate with a strong well defined pro working class economic agenda will win.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 01:13 PM
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13. we cannot cave to the rightwing n/t
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 09:04 AM
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14. We aren't we a moving to middle to more reflect the majority of the people
LIke it or not the middle is where we need to be. In the past 41 years the only democrats who won the Whitehouse have been southerners, Christians, and ran as moderates.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 12:11 PM
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15. that's what...
Gore and Kerry did and it didn't work. i think we must give a clear choice.
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 12:30 PM
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16. They were to far to the left socially
and not far enough to the left economically.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 12:47 PM
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17. and the '02 midterms...
we got pounded while every dem was running to the middle.
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 12:59 PM
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18. That would be because they did not have an pro working class....
economic message. On the economy many no longer see a bucket od warm piss worth of difference between the dems and the rethugs.
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:09 PM
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19. If you want people to support you and therefore get what you want
You must show that you support them on bread and butter issues. It is the economy stupid.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:35 PM
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20. yes it is...
but there is a big difference between the two parties. for instance the thugs want to balance the budget on the backs of the working stiff and the poor. the dems want to make the rich pay they're fair share and manage the defense budget.
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:39 PM
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22. Clinton signed NAFTA.
Edited on Wed Nov-02-05 01:42 PM by losdiablosgato
Most of us see very little difference between the two. We need to hammer home jobs, and balanced budgets. We have to get our house in order before we can go and get the goodies. The dems in congress will waste money onpork just as fast as teh rethug.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 02:26 PM
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23. yes that is true...
all of what you said. but the dems will take better care of the poor, and that is not anti-job, we could do both. look at the labor laws this administration has attacked, also minimum wage, medical care. there is no reason we can't win on these issues.
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 02:49 PM
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24. Prove they will take better care of the poor
Edited on Wed Nov-02-05 02:51 PM by losdiablosgato
The poor I talked to in my town do not trust us anymore. I know of 3 personally who lost their jobs to NAFTA. There once was a time the working class trusted the dems to look after their interest. I fear those times are over.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 12:36 AM
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25. i can't PROVE it...
but CAFTA won't help. and look at how Katrina has exposed the republican party and their insensitivity to the poor. they were left to rot in so called shelters. they also want to cut medicare and medicaid and have cut section 8 housing funds, and forget raising the minimum wage. this would not happen with dem congress and administration.
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 08:29 AM
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26. I think you miss the issue
Before we can change squat we have to get elected. To do that we need the middle class, working class votes. We need to show them new ideas that will improve their lives. And to be blunt now days the majority of the working class's biggest concern on the poor is not joining them due to free trade and out sourcing.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:18 AM
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27. exactly...
that's part of what i'm trying to say, i should have made myself clearer. the middle class is disappearing quickly, because of repub laws and policies. soon we'll all be in soup lines. that's why i feel we must give voters a clear choice, not "republican lite" as they say. i think we want the same thing but were saying it differently.
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:26 AM
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28. What I am saying is we have a lot better chance
To win and stop this madness if we give them a clear choice on the economy but meet them half way on social issues. Like it or not befor ewe cna move to the left we need to go throught the center.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:49 AM
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29. i think i lean...
a little more left than you, but i get what you are saying and you are probably correct. i just don't like the idea of giving them an inch.
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:00 AM
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30. I would rather give an inch or two, then have rethugs take a yard
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 11:01 AM by losdiablosgato
And for the record I am somewhat of a blue dog southerner. Just letting you know hwere I am coming from.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 12:42 PM
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31. you fooled me...
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 12:49 PM by dajoki
with that Pat's logo. i'm a PA liberal and we are doing our best to get rid of santorum. i think you would like his opponent, Bob Casey. middle of the road dem. we might be from different parts of the country but i think we still want the same thing. and we MUST be united to get it.:toast: http://www.bobcaseyforpa.com/index.html
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 12:51 PM
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32. Agreed
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 01:33 AM
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9. kick nm
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I_am_Spartacus Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 02:27 AM
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10. The Nat'l Assoc of Mnfg's is one of oldest, most powerful, and most
pro-business lobbying groups.

They go back to the FDR years and have been on the wrong side of every important political issue.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-05 02:31 AM
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11. It seems like all we have left is the street these days (nt)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:36 PM
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21. Bush is nothing more than a coporote whore
He doesn't give a damn about the rightwing fundies beliefs.
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