Education by Freeper

[JJackFlash]

To amuse myself this afternoon, I checked out Freeperville threads on Intelligent Design (Creationism). Among the expressions of sorrow for the Creationist school board in PA that was booted by the voters was this freeper gem:

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To: MarcusTulliusCicero

I substitute taught today for a biology teacher in NJ. They were in the middle of the Darwin/Evolution unit. The teacher left a big project for them about the giraffe neck, and how it came to be long via "survivial of the fittest."

Anyway, I threw her plans in the rubbish bin and gave my own lecture. God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th. He took a rib from Adam to make woman. Many of the kids had never heard this before. I'll prob. get fired.

8 posted on 11/09/2005 4:45:08 PM PST by Centerfield

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. "I'll prob. get fired." I should hope so!

[MercutioATC]

2. Sounds like a DU troll to me.

Not even a Freeper would be THAT stupid.

[marbuc]

4. I don't know

there are a few that would shock you with their stupidity/ignorance.

[MercutioATC]

8. Yeah, I know. I spent a year there.

VERY quietly monitoring and interjecting a moderate comment or two. I was booted after a year.

Why?

Because I suggested that some people didn't consider homosexuals to be "abominations" (as was stated by another poster). That one comment got me booted.

:eyes:

[JJackFlash]

7. I see you haven't much experience with these people

and how they really think if you believe they wouldn't be that ignorant.
I think she's a fundie who felt perfectly comfortable there to post that.

Maybe you are right and it was a DU troll.
To be honest, "Centerfield" did catch some flak from her fellow freepers for her asininity.

[MercutioATC]

9. See above :)

It still sounds a little too contrived to me.

[marbuc]

3. he/she SHOULD be fired

I can't believe that person was awarded a degree and/or teaching certificate. To be fair, there are a lot of freepers that don't believe ID should be taught as science.

[sinkingfeeling]

5. Sure hope so! Science class is for science, Moran! And I bet those

students who had never heard your crap before aren't Christians.

[LisaM]

6. There is no way that happened

I think it sounds somewhat sarcastic.

[JJackFlash]

10. There are fundie substitute teachers

and they would hate the idea of being asked to teach evolution.
I mean, can you imagine the conflict with their strongly held opinions and entire world view?

I don't see why it's so hard to believe.

[LisaM]

11. But why would they teach science?

and why would they rip up lesson plans and throw them away?

I'm not doubting that there are fruitcakes trying to get into the public schools and teach them crazy stuff. But the actual story sounds unlikely; also, if they are learning about evolution, they are most likely old enough to have heard all the old chestnuts from the Bible.

[No Exit]

12. WTF?? The giraffe neck was previously always

mentioned in evolution discussions (at least, at the lower school levels) because of the discredited Lamarck theory: that theory said that if a parent animal picked up a trait during its life, that trait could be passed down to its offspring. Of course that theory didn't hold water: we don't genetically pass on conditions which we have that are not the result of heredity.

I heard about both evolution and creation when I went to school. Evolution was CONSIDERED in science class. (The most important thing they taught us was that all knowledge is subject to correction, change, update, etc.) The creation story was taught us in religion class. (Catholic school.) There was discussion of the creation story, but we were not encouraged to question it the way we were encouraged to be questioning in science class. After all, there IS quite a difference between science and religion.

I never had a problem with learning both of them. I have heard, for decades now, from wingnuts, that "public schools do a poor job of teaching.. their real mission is to instill propaganda in the heads of students." But look who's REALLY trying to instill propaganda in the heads of students: surprise, it's the same wingnuts who complained. And apparently those public schools are doing too good a job of teaching for the wingnuts to tolerate. Teaching isn't cramming facts (or, in the case of creationism, lovely myths) into people's heads--it's telling people how to ask the questions, and how to seek out the facts.

[sepia_steel]

13. Actually i can easily see a freeptard doing this.

Hope he/she does get fired.