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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 07:59 PM
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How can anyone criticize Brokaw here?!?! This is the BEST debate!
He ain't perfect, but he aint the devil incarnate like
KoppleJennings. Damn, he's moderating a *debate*, on *issues*.
He's not snide. He's not on the attack.

I'm so happy!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:00 PM
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1. he is debating the candidates
He is blaming Clinton for terrorism and he is carrying water for Bush. He should just ask the questions and shut up.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:16 PM
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13. That was a tough but fair question- did Clinton do enough about terrorism?
nt
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:43 PM
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25. Exactly
and plugging his wonderful new documentary. Other than goading Dean to attack Kerry I saw little debate among the candidates. They used each others trademark lines often but they didn't really discuss their differences in a fashion that would let you separate them from one another. Boring for the most part.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:02 PM
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2. I think Brokaw is unnecessarily rude, trying to put down our candidates...
and elevate his own large ego--he is the star of NBC, after all.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:02 PM
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3. I agree, I'm glad he's being an asshole
Because this is still NOTHING compared to how the Republicans will go after whoever wins the nomination.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:02 PM
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4. I think your wrong .....
I think he has asked leading question intended to showcase perceived negatives ...

Why are you so happy ? ...

Hmmmmmmmmm ....
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:32 PM
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19. yes, but they were substantive possible negatives
Yes, but they were substantive possible negatives.

It was reasonable for Brokaw to ask Wesley Clark if Bill Clinton as well as George W. Bush didn't do enough against terrorism.

It was bogus for Peter Jennings to declare that the facts don't support Michael Moore's statement that Bush is a deserter, and to ask Clark why he doesn't repudiate Michael Moore.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:02 PM
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5. he's rude to me
I prefer Stephanopolous.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:05 PM
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6. He has done nothing but argue the GOP case
I found his claim that the Clinton administration did nothing about terrorism particularly offensive.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:09 PM
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9. Exactly. He's trying to get the candidates to stick up for Bush. e/o/m
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:13 PM
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11. Isn't that what Bush will be doing?
Sorry, but I don't think these guys benefit from a cakewalk debate. Let people see how these guys perform while being attacked.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:36 PM
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22. Exactly.
They'll all be stellar if they get easy questions that any Democrat in his right mind could answer. With the harder questions, we'll see who's really got the ability to go the distance.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:34 PM
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20. Brokaw gave Wesley Clark chance to discuss Clinton record on terrorism nt
nt
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:08 PM
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7. He was worse at first but got better
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:08 PM
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8. He just took another shot at Clinton
He's just a GE shill.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:11 PM
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10. He tried to misrepresent Clark early on re: bush/9*11
TB said something like: General Clark, you have said bush was responsible for 9*11...

Clark: no, no, no that's not what I said...

Clark then enlightened TB, and TB said something like "well, that's what I said..." but it WAS NOT what he said.

I can't wait for the transcript of this debate
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:14 PM
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12. He misrepresented DK's position on Iraq as well
He is not uninformed, he knows exactly what he's doing.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:17 PM
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14. But Brokaw let Kucinich explain immediately afterwards (nt)
nt
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:21 PM
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16. And on the WMD lies, he seemed shocked that anyone would blame bushco
"its the intelliegence agencies, that fact was established by Kay"

I think the rw and the media whores really believe we're all sleepy little sheep, and our expression of independant thought, even on something so blatant, so obvious as the wmd lies, just doesn't compute with them.

but, but bush's appointee said it wasn't bush's fault he lied us into a fraudulent invasion...

TB is a tool
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:20 PM
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15. I'd put it in the middle
I remember the debate done by Iowa? PBS & I think that was the best.

But Brokaw is better than FOX, Jennings, Woodruff, etc.

At least he has given everyone a chance to participate, & he has addressed real issues, international, & domestic.
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LiberalBushFan Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:26 PM
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17. It was far better moderation than the last Fox debate
I doubt anyone will disagree with that. Still far from ideal, but it's not gonna get any better than this on CNN, MSNBC, or FOX.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:29 PM
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MSNBC showed the whole debate, unlike Fox News, which
MSNBC showed the whole debate, unlike Fox News, which didn't broadcast the last 10 minutes last time, and showed Republican Fred Barnes instead.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:29 PM
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18. I stand by my assertion. This was far better than the other media whore
debates. There was some effort to focus on issues.
It was not as hostile as Jennings/Koppel.

The candidates got to speak about their stances on *issues*.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:37 PM
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23. I agree. Brokaw asked about policy in many areas instead of
I agree. Brokaw asked about policy in many areas instead of asking about gay-marriage all night, like the Fox-debate questioners.

George W. wants this election to be a referendum on gay-marriage, and the Fox-questioners were trying to help W. make it that way.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:35 PM
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21. Tommy Brokeass sucks compared to Jon Stewart
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of these corporate whores - at least Stewart is funny. It doesn't take a genius to read a script - why not outsource the moderator jobs to India - much more cost effective!
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:38 PM
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24. Yes - hardly any "gotcha" questions...
Brokaw has gone up in my estimation (compared to the other whores who have done the debates, anyways).
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