Clark redemption

[windansea]

calm...confident...composed...smiling and on point

couldn't be happier with his performance tonight!!

[lovedems]

1. I didn't get to watch but I followed the threads and it sounds like he

did a great job!

[democratreformed]

2. Yeah!!

I missed the whole damned thing. ARGHHHH!!! My sister and brother-in-law chose TONIGHT to visit. Couldn't hear a thing for all the TALKING. Still can't as a matter of fact.

[windansea]

4. they will probably repeat later

[juajen]

14. Naughty

What are you doing typing when you have visitors?

[democratreformed]

24. I can't help it!!

I join in the conversation every so often.

[Auntie Bush]

49. I,d say we are all addicted.

[democratreformed]

74. I have become a political junkie

I admit it. Is there a 12 step program somewhere to help me? Or am I just doomed? :D

[windansea]

97. put a time lock on your pc n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

40. It repeats at 11:00 central time. n/t MSNBC

[Hoppin_Mad]

3. Clark did a good job tonight -nt-

[windansea]

8. Dean did great with tweety

killed his post debate interview

[Leilani]

21. Thank You

This debate was fair to him, & he got to show his knowledge.

[Clark Can WIN]

34. Thanks Hoppin Mad

:hi: Nice of you to say. I thought he did great but once again NOBODY got as much time as they deserved because the crowd is a little too big.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

45. Thanks hoppin - so did your guy...

n/t

[Democrats unite]

5. I think Clark and Dean did a great job tonight.

We sure saw the difference between them & Kerry.

[krkaufman]

61. Yeah, I thought "Kerry" was the least impressive tonight

Clark *ruled* tonight. Clean and consise, and got some excellent sound bytes in, and spoke on a number of subjects. If we had a decent media, he'd be doing great.

Unfortunately, Clark received ZERO attention, that I've seen, post-debate. Buchanan, speaking with Tweety, puffed up Kerry saying that he "won."

Sharpton was great, too, commenting on Florida 2000.

Best line of the night may have been Edwards...: "The President needs to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time."

I even thought Brokaw did OK, except he can't be forgiven for his prejudicing the audience at the outset:

- Commented on Kerry's lead and mentioned Dean's campaign struggles.
- Said Edwards *had* to win SC
- Grouped (Clark, Sharpton, Kucinich) together and asked in they shouldn't drop out if they don't win somewhere next Tuesday.
- Asked Lieberman effectively the same "when you gonna quit?" nonsense.

Brokaw was out-of-bounds in doing this. Let the people listen to the debate and decide for themselves; dont' handicap the candidates before the debate. This is especially important for those people who haven't been following the race.

Very sad.

[windansea]

72. missed the opening

these high paid broadcasters let the money and power go to their heads...pathetic

I agree with your last statement 100%

"Brokaw was out-of-bounds in doing this. Let the people listen to the debate and decide for themselves; dont' handicap the candidates before the debate. This is especially important for those people who haven't been following the race."

[MuseRider]

6. He is getting

better all the time. Good debate for him I thought.

[BootinUp]

7. You're exactly right, calm but strong.

[Toucano]

9. Brilliant! n/t

[artistaboard]

10. Clark sounded fine

No MSNBC here, listened on NPR, the whole thing went well. Good issues questions, no baiting. Clark's responses made me proud, wish we'd been able to watch. Thanks for the visual clues!

[windansea]

13. he looked so happy and engaged

it was beautiful..ya gotta watch

[Leilani]

28. Right , he was smiling

While the other candidates were answering, he was really enjoying it.

[girl gone mad]

86. Right on..

The camera cut to a view of Lieberman and Clark (listening to another speaker) at one point, and the difference was stark. There was Lieberman, with his arms crossed looking angry and Clark looking receptive and happy.

Three lengthy threads on this topic (Clark's great performance) should be some indication..

[slinkerwink]

11. Clark did great in the debate, and Dean did great post-debate....

kudos to you guys! :toast:

[Clark Can WIN]

93. Thanks Slink and you are right

Dean did very well in the post show. Very firm. Good show.

[AP]

12. His stealth kisses are going to hurt him,

[OKNancy]

15. I'm sorry, what does that mean?

Honest.

[BootinUp]

18. come'on you're not serious

it was different granted, but who cares!

:hi:

[windansea]

22. heh heh

no offense but when Jk was listening to a question about capping lawsuits and they did a close up he looked like a 14 year old caught with his hand in the cookie jar

[Jerseycoa]

33. Okay, I have to ask

AP, what the hell has become of you? I barely recognize you as the person we used to know. Seriously.

[Democrats unite]

37. Edwards lost big time tonight...

Maybe that influenced what you said?

[windansea]

42. the more I see Edwards

the more I see a bit of slick lawyer underneath the populist puppy dog image

[Jerseycoa]

59. It's been since Iowa

I've been biting my tongue, but enough of it.

[krkaufman]

62. What the h does that mean?

> "His stealth kisses are going to hurt him,"

What?

[BootinUp]

79. Its in reference to yesterdays Tonight Show

and the baby kissing segment.

Clark "over did it" just a wee bit. But hardly a campaign concern.

[maddezmom]

16. happy to hear it

Missed it, but I'll go thru the threads later. Thanks for the positive post. :)

[quaker bill]

17. I would go even farther.

Clark finally showed some of the command presence that I have been hoping for out of him since he joined the campaign.

I am a Dean supporter. I think Dean did OK. But I think Clark really came to the forefront this evening. I was quite impressed with his performance.

Sincere congratulations to Clark supporters on a very good night.

[BootinUp]

23. thank you quaker bill

Dean did well too, he had a good post debate interview, slamming Cheney.

[krkaufman]

64. Dean rocks

Absolutely, I thought Dean was great, too. I've seriously p'd about the troubles with his campaign. We can't afford to lose Dean (or DK, or Al); with Clark, they're all we've got.

Outsiders rule!

[Leilani]

31. Thank You

This debate was what I knew he could do,having watched him in town halls.

[maddezmom]

54. thanks quaker bill

:hug: I didn't get to see it, but means a lot that you thought he did a good job.

[krkaufman]

63. Thanks, but...

Thanks, but not so much for the complement on our candidate, but for being a breath of fresh air. The boards seem to be more tense lately, what with the media trying to end the whole process before it's had a chance to get started.

edit: p.s. thanks for the complement, too, though.

[Myra]

19. Couldn't agree more with your assessment tonight.

calm...confident...composed...smiling and on point

Firm, presidential, articulate, clear and concise, an exceptional
leader and man.

Yes!

[windansea]

48. since you are so GOOD with words

I'll take that as a compliment extraordinaire

:beer:

[Jerseycoa]

20. Good job for Wes!

He was his real self. I love when he talks and shares his thoughts, rather than speechifies. I know speechifying is part of it, but I had been missing his great mind.

[krkaufman]

66. Agreed... stumping does NOT highlight his strengths

Totally agree. They need to figure out how to present Clark to people in this fashion... More Town Hall style, less stump-speeches.

And couldn't they find a way to have his Town Halls broadcast live over the Internet, nightly? Or, worst case, record them and put them up on the website?

[laruemtt]

25. he was great!

he has improved exponentially - just like we knew he would :)

[windansea]

29. he was a little rusty last time

and got mugged by faux...Brokaw was much better moderator..tough but pretty fair

[Jerseycoa]

35. Wes was ready tonight.

For sure.

[Clark Can WIN]

39. I think he's better at faring without sleep than the others

You know they are all tired. That combined with his brilliance and ability to be a quick learner did it. A STELLAR PERFORMANCE!

WAY TO GO WES !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[windansea]

43. the guy is in serious good shape

mentally and physically...awesome!

[kentuck]

26. He's a quick learner ! He did much better tonight...

in my opinion. I thought DK did very well also.

[Jerseycoa]

77. DK was great!

:bounce:

[dennis4868]

27. He did well tonight because....

he was acyually asked policy questions tonight...isn't that amazing?

[krkaufman]

69. Laughing...

exactly. amazing what he can do when given a chance.

[blm]

30. Clark did great tonight.

.

[webkev]

32. I didn't get to see it - but I will sleep well tonight :)

sounds like he did really really well

[krkaufman]

70. Sleep therapy...

Stay away from news outlets and polls.

[xultar]

36. 100% agreed I think NH was stressful for him and he's glad

that it is over.

So, now he's relaxed and he can do what he needs to do to get the job done.

[windansea]

38. yep he's hitting his stride

at just the right time

[MoonRiver]

41. I've been gone all day and missed it!

Will there be a replay on C-SPAN? I just knew the General was gonna hit his stride this time, and shore nuff I had to have one of 'those' days!

[in_cog_ni_to]

46. repeat on MSNBC at 11:00 central time. n/t

[Fleshdancer]

44. Clark was very good tonight

I only watched the first hour, but from what I saw, I really liked Clark's performance. Good job.

[windansea]

47. thanks to all the Dean supporters

for chiming in...I thought Dean aced his post debate interview...best I've ever seen him

:thumbsup: :kick:

[Fleshdancer]

52. and of course I didn't even see the post debate interview

oh well, I'm sure it will be replayed a few times tonight. It pays to be an insomniac at times.

I always expected Clark to be a pretty tough candidate to beat in the primary...and damn near impossible in the General (thank Goddess). If I can't have Dean, please oh please let it be Clark. Besides, who else but Clark can pick up Dean's grassroots movement if Dean doesn't win? Kerry? Lieberman? nooooooo.

[robbedvoter]

50. Redemption? For what sins? I don't get it.

He was great tonight, he was excellent in the vicious Faux debate as well. Nothing to redeem from.

[windansea]

51. catchy title...

:party:

[Jerseycoa]

53. Let's pay up, whoever can tonight

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=229128

[windansea]

56. good idea!

I think of it more as an investment...in our future..

heres the secure link

https://secure.clark04.com

O8)

[DianeG5385]

60. Done! He has to win!

$100
258486

[MoonRiver]

55. OMG! All I've done is just read all these threads, but they totally

reinforce my belief that this guy needs to be our president! O8)

[Auntie Bush]

57. Clark's such a fast learner! I'm so impressed...my husband

who is a Dean supporter and usually disses Clark...actually never said anything negative tonight. First time...so that is saying a lot.
It killed him! Now he knows he really is something and it's not just a hubba hubba women thing.

[windansea]

58. heh heh

good one...don't make him jealous...:)

[krkaufman]

73. Women...

Word has it that Clark has a "gender gap" in that women view him less positively than men do. (My apologies for mentioning a poll.) Supposedly it has something to do with his military background.

Any comments?

[Clark Can WIN]

90. FOS comes to mind.

Clark cares about things that are important to all people and to women too. Health insurance, education, employment, quality of living, reproductive rights, domestic violence.

I fully believe that 98% of all women, just like men, form their opinions on issues and oher factors not looks.

But he is fine. That's just icing on the cake.

[shoopnyc123]

65. He was good but...

...he's such a gentleman...the nastiness of politics doesn't sit well on him. He's a wonderful man and american.

[kentuck]

67. I have a feeling his demeanor went over very well ...

in South Carolina.

:) he looked.................................uh.......presidential.

[windansea]

68. that's why we like him

politics is nasty...but some people can rise above it

notice how Wes was smiling so much...he likes what he's doing...

doesn't seem like he's trying to be someone he isn't...or that he "needs" to be president

very refreshing...

[OKNancy]

71. Caption please

[BootinUp]

76. BooYAAH!

?
:)

[windansea]

78. what a cool pic!!

the 2 outsiders goofin around

freakin Clark has a great smile...

[Jerseycoa]

80. Wes says, "Great tie, Howard."

:7

[MidwestMomma]

81. Can't think of a caption. All I can say is WOW....

The General looked double-s SHARP tonight. That blue tie has got to stay!

Besides the image, which is important, Clark stayed on message, came across as positive and confident and hopefully started the path of differentiating himself from the Washington insider, Kerry.

Thanks to all the great Clark supporters on the board. Everytime I get a little down about the media ignoring Clark or the perceived inevitably of the Kerry nomination, I just have to pop in here and get a big ole dose of optimism.

Question: Any Clark supporters doing volunteer work in Kansas City metro area? I emailed to volunteer this weekend but have heard nada. Any suggestions?

ps I'm confused on adding an avatar...thought I picked the Clark one in my profile but when I posted wasn't there. Any clue?

[NV1962]

84. Avatar

Is set in your profile - click on the Lobby link (up to the left) and there, click on "Options" icon (top, near center) then, on the left, select "Edit your Profile" link. Then, in the 3rd field "Avatar image" click on the link that says "following images" - click on the image you like, then click on the "Update" button (scroll down) and you're done.

Whew.

Send me an e-mail: [e-mail] and I'll forward it to LR, see who (which local co-ordinator) is closest to you.

[BootinUp]

85. Clark avatar - Its there now

I'm sure they could use some help in MO. Here's a page about volunteering in MO:

http://www.clark04.com/primary/mo.html

[Tatiana]

82. VICTORY is within our grasp! n/t

[Jack_Dawson]

98. Clark is such a f------ stud it's not even funny

LOOK at this guy! Can you say Presidential? Now think of Bush. Now think of Clark v. Bush in a debate.

[TexasPatriot]

100. Caption

Hey Howard, reach around and under my armpit... we can make fart noises at Brokaw when he's not lookin.

[catherineD]

75. Great performance but tv and newspapers are pretending he doesn't exist.

There should be a law against allowing the 4th estate to pervert democracy by refusing to cover the person who is second to Kerry in the polling for Feb 3 states.

[kentuck]

83. Was it just me...?

Or did Brokaw seem like he didn't really want to ask the general a question and then, once he was asked, he couldn't wait to shut him down? It almost seemed like, we're just letting you respond out of courtesy, but we'd really like to just skip your responses....? Anybody else have a similar feeling?

[windansea]

88. Brokaw always looks constipated

or about to take a crap....LOL I am funny sometimes

[MidwestMomma]

89. Did you see the Brokaw interview with Clark after the State of the Union?

They kind of got into it over Clark's supposed support of the war. Brokaw was trying to use the out of context quote in that London (?) paper (you know which one I'm talking about) and Clark was all over him and actually interrupted Brokaw and was saying "Now be careful. Be careful" in response to the lying liar and the lies he was telling. Clark actually used the finger wag on him!

Then Brokaw just kind of sat back in his chair all flabbergasted with this screwy-ass look on his face like he had just stepped in dog poo. So I don't think there is any love lost between them. So maybe that's part of Brokaw's behavior tonight.

[windansea]

91. a finger wag smackdown...yesssssss

heh heh watch out Tommy boy...

[Clark Can WIN]

92. I loved it when he "asked" a question of Clark and then gave

5? minutes to DK before Clard ever got to open his mouth.

Not biased. Not at all.

[dae]

87. This is one uplifting thread, thanks fellow Clarkies and Dems. Although

I haven't been happy with all of the candidates all of the time, I do appreciate the group we have to chose from, especially when you look in the WH.
:)

[kayleybeth]

94. General Clark made me proud tonight!

and I am more determined than ever to do everything within my power to help Clark win the nomination!

GO WES GO!

[Justitia]

95. great response tonight

I thought Clark did really well for himself tonight (looked great too). I really liked how Clark stood up for himself when Brokaw tried to misrepresent him more than once. He was VERY strong on his Iraq war response, and as a Dean supporter, I'm so appreciative to hear another candidate speak in such a strong voice about it.

I hope Clark continues to shine on strong, and I hope he cleans up in the south - we need him there. :)

[windansea]

96. thanks and great 1st post!!

welcome to DU

:toast:

[incapsulated]

99. He was Fantabulous!

I'm a happy camper. I had to drink to watch, so I watched again a bit more sober and...

He was still great! :party:

[FrenchieCat]

101. We took on AP....

who had an article on Yahoo with 2 lines on Clark buried after mentions of everyone else.....we called, faxed and telephoned.....two hours later, they had a story about only Clark....a positive one for a f*cking change...and another debate story starting with his quote.

Those are some assh*les who think they rule the world....well they got busted tonight! They have an agenda!

Well they can kiss my grits....cause I've got one too!

[Jack_Dawson]

102. C? Is that you?

:-)

[Jack_Dawson]

103. Did Brokejaw Really Do This???

I missed the debate. But Brokejaw just leapfrogged Woodruff, Jennings, Crowley, Novak, Tweety, Safire and Carlson for World's Top MediaWhore if he really did this:

(Lifted from krkaufman's post earlier in this thread)

Thanks krkaufman!

"I even thought Brokaw did OK, except he can't be forgiven for his prejudicing the audience at the outset:

- Commented on Kerry's lead and mentioned Dean's campaign struggles.
- Said Edwards *had* to win SC
- Grouped (Clark, Sharpton, Kucinich) together and asked in they shouldn't drop out if they don't win somewhere next Tuesday.
- Asked Lieberman effectively the same "when you gonna quit?" nonsense.

Brokaw was out-of-bounds in doing this. Let the people listen to the debate and decide for themselves; dont' handicap the candidates before the debate. This is especially important for those people who haven't been following the race.

Very sad."