I wish Kucinich and Lieberman would just drop out!

[rpf113]

They seem to go on and on and on with their answers and they both should realize by now they're not going to get elected and they don't represent an important constiuency like Al Sharpton. At least Kucinich should drop out! I mean he gets equal debate time even though he's getting less that 1% of the vote in the polls. I like the guy, but I want to hear more from the big players. And I'm just darn tired of Lieberman.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

1. Clark should drop out too - only Kerry and Dean should stay in

That's the Democratic way. Oops, I mean, that's the anti-Democratic way!

[jenk]

2. Just once, I'd like to see a Kerry-Edwards-Clark-Dean debate

Lieberman, Sharpton and Kucinich are doing nothing but spinning there wheels and wasting time now. It hurts the real candidates performance!

Gephardt is a man of integrity, he knew when his time was up and left.

[corporatewhore]

4. Oh yeah having the GUTS to talk about free trade pnac and healthcare is

just spinning wheels

[jenk]

6. it would be nice if the real candidates were all asked relevant questions

unfortunately we have some freeloaders on stage, so delusional they think they have some kind of mandate.

this was fine 3 months ago, now it's almost parasitic.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

8. Relevant question? What the hell are those if not..

If not UHC, PNCA, ILLEGAL Iraq war, NAFTA, Patriot Act, cutting the military budget?

Should we just have more relevant questions like, "What did you have for dinner?", "Who do you think will win American Idol?"

" now it's almost parasitic." Yes listening to poll and money results over and over is so much better. Fuck the issues!

TWL

[MuseRider]

11. Free loaders?

You have GOT to be kidding.

[no name no slogan]

15. Tell Edwards to come back when he gets his training wheels off

"I mean, he's been in the Senate for not even one term? And THAT's the extent of his political experience? WTF?

Tell him to come back when he's old enough to shave, and then maybe we'll take him seriously."

================================================================

That made a lot of sense, too, didn't it?

:nuke:

[cushla_machree]

18. almost parasitic?

Thats rather insulting.

heck, Deans not doing all that great either, maybe he should just drop out as well.

[adamrsilva]

3. DK and Sharpton give the best answers

I'd rather listen to them than Kerry, Edwards, or Lieberman any day...

[corporatewhore]

5. Oh yeah only DLC pro freetrade and pro soa cannidates should get air time

[genius]

7. I wish Dean would drop out. The other candidates all more closely

reflect Democratic values. Dennis my wind up your candidate after the convention. I hope you're prepared to work for him.

[DemBones DemBones]

31. I agree. It's sad to see anyone urge that DK should drop out when

so many people would vote for Kucinich if they had the courage to vote for the guy they agree with whether he seems electable or not.

For months we were hearing Dean was inevitable, unstoppable, because he had the money and the polls. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've said that if it's all about money, Bush has already won, (because those dollars could go to Dennis!)

Now Dean has done poorly in regard to expectations raised in both Iowa and NH, Trippi's gone, and he doesn't have the money or the polls going for him, either.

Now, DK could afford to make the suddenly poor Dean campaign a loan, and who would have thought that would ever happen?

Politics involves change, and this ride's not over yet.

[MuseRider]

9. I would like to see

Sharpton and Kucinich. The others flat out bore me, centrists and all pretty much the same.

[rpf113]

10. How about...

anybody with 10% or more in the national polls can participate in the next debate.

[no name no slogan]

13. How about fundraising?

Kucinich has raised more than Clark. So Clark should sit this one out, since that's just as good as a barometer as some half-assed poll.

[rpf113]

20. No it's not.

Clark is polling between 10 - 14 %.
That's a little better than Kucinich's 1% even if Kucinich had 10 billion dollars.
People just don't like him.
Period.

[no name no slogan]

28. That's why most Democracts

(PLEASE NOTE: I said "DEMOCRATS", not independents or Republicans) agree with DK's positions on "Free Trade", universal health care, cutting Pentagon waste, and reining in corporate power and empowerin workers.

Of course, with what's passing for "Democrats" these days, it doesn't suprise me that the Corpocrats (like the Clintons, and Clark) can't even recognize what the damned Democratic Party Platform is anymore.

Oh, BTW, Wesley sure looked "dreeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamy" with his shirt open on the cover of the Advocate. Hubba hubba, I'm questioning my very heterosexuality as we speak (hello, nnns's heterosexuality?....)

:P

[no name no slogan]

12. I wish Clark would drop out, too.

His platform is completely unorignal and nearly identical to Kerry's and Dean's, and his only excuse for running is that he's an ex-general. Maybe his platform is so unoriginal because he didn't even HAVE one until he declared he was a candidate-- I visited his web site shortly after he declared, and his "issues" page said "under construction".

He also damn near started WWIII in Kosovo, except some Limey wussbag general pissed on his parade. He gave a praising speech at the School of Assassins-- er, "School of the Americas", he gushed all over Bush's nice little war on CNN last year, his only compelling attribute is how "buff" he looks, and he has not even raised as much money as DK has. And who the hell wants a candidate who appeals to Republicans? Don't they already have a party, anyway?

And generals make shitty presidents, anyway. Look at Ulysses S. Grant-- he was a drunk and an incompetant. Eisenhower did little but polish the president's chair with his ass between Truman and Kennedy. Oh wait, George Washington was a general,....but he did grow hemp, so I guess he's passable.

{/sarcasm}

Damn, that felt good. Pass the Listerine, I need another hit.

:P

[ThirdWheelLegend]

17. ¡Aye caramba!

That was great DS.

:hug:

[cushla_machree]

23. Well said.

the school of the america's thing always bothered me about clark.

remember his "dream team" comment?

and lest we forget his fun little meeting with Ratko Mladic.

[Blitz]

14. Which "important constituency"

is Sharpton supposed to represent?

[Desertrose]

16. Dennis is the one with the most to say and the most guts to say it...

and you want him out so all the boring guys can talk?

Are you kidding? Without Dennis & Sharpton...this would be such a joke- ok, a bigger joke. As for Lieberman...well he is the lone repub, what can we say? Its only fair to have him in too ( although I am tired of his same old...)

You want Dennis out...who is by far the best choice in this field of Dems...amazing....really mind numbingly amazing....
Peace
DR

[Terwilliger]

19. Clark should drop out...he has little chance to win

[rpf113]

25. Yes... You all make SO much sense!

Let's have Clark, Kerry Edwards and Dean drop out since they're boring! Leave in DK and sharpton because they're fun! And they're leftist enough for us!

I want to hear more from the candidates who actually have a chance at getting the nomination. As much as I like DK's tirades and Sharpton's jokes, I want to hear the actually top tier candidates in a debate.

But then again, if I recall, many of the Kucinich people are ex-Naderites. No reasoning with them.

[MuseRider]

27. Well that was certainly nice!

Been voting Dem for 32 years. BTW, what is wrong with ex-Naderites? They are citizens same as you and me with the RIGHT to vote their conscience.

[sistersofmercy]

21. Kucinich should stay in all the way to the convention

His message is needed! I love Dennis!

[ThirdWheelLegend]

24. He plans to! Sharpton has said he will also!

Go voices of the people!

TWL

[MrSlayer]

22. Disagree entirely.

Kucinich and Sharpton put out a very important viewpoint. Joe should drop out if anyone.

[rpf113]

26. See you say that just because you don't like Lieberman.

Lieberman, Kucinich and Sharpton don't have a shot at the nomination. I have nothing wrong with them staying in the presidential race. I just want to have ONE debate with the 4 candidates who actually have a chance.

[MuseRider]

29. But they DO have a chance.

Lots and lots of people have yet to vote or is that a problem?

[MrSlayer]

32. No, it's just that I don't think he progresses the party.

Where Kucinich and Sharpton do.

[rpf113]

34. I'm strictly talking numbers.

n/t

[no name no slogan]

36. No, you're talking out yr @$$

So far, 1.5% of the delegates have been decided. Let me repeat that:

1.5%

And what about your blessed "polls", huh? They were spot in IA, weren't they?

This thing ain't over until the fat lady sings; and shit, she's still at home in her dressing robe wiping night cream off her face.

:P

(sweet mother of God, that definately was the strongest cough medicine you can buy without a prescription)
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

[no name no slogan]

35. Why bother?

They'll answer the questions the same damn way. Their platforms are interchangeable:

* no solution to the healthcare crisis, except pitching more tax money down a corporate rathole.
* no CONCRETE plan to get the US OUT of Iraq ASAP.
* no say on how they'll keep American jobs in America (oh, except for Clark's little bit about "let the Indians have our jobs". As an unemployed tech guy, I have an issue with that.)

Talk about BO-RING... shit, I think I'd rather watch fcuking golf on TV than watch that debate. It's like reading a mystery novel, but reading the last ten pages first: you know how it's gonna end, so why bother?

If you want some Corpocratic Wall Street apologist, VOTE REPUBLICAN! They'd be more than happy to accomodate your wishes with a corporate white male who'd be more than happy to send your job to China, while he steals more of your tax money for Pentagon garbage that doesn't work. He'll whore his sorry ass to the highest bidder, while your tax money goes into the pockets of scumbags like Ken Lay.

Yes, indeed, what this party needs is more media-friendly blow-dried ass-kissing MODERATES!

Because they led us SO WELL in the 90s....

:P

[corporatewhore]

30. Yeah Lieberman should drop out becuase it is the DEM primary not the REPUG

primary

[rpf113]

33. Believe it or not he's a registered Democrat!

Last time I checked that makes him 100% able to run for President as a Democrat. And you know what must piss you DK people off? That Lieberman is doing 8x better than Kucinich!

[Moderator]

37. Locking....

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