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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:36 PM
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Al Sharpton's Gift to America
During the OJ trial, opinion of whether OJ was guilty or not was split almost completely along racial lines, with almost all whites saying guilty and almost all non-whites saying innocent (at least of that particular crime ).

When you listened to people talk, a lot of the comments from whites sounded very similar to things you would have heard from white people in Alabama in 1963.

The OJ trial taught a lot of non-whites that in the hearts and minds of the white majority in the US, things had not really changed that much since racial apartheid was the law of the land.

There was a similar epiphany for many non-whites after 9-11, when the veneer was stripped away, and many people living in the US learned overnight who their friends are.

Al Sharpton will not win the election, would not, even if the "election" were 100% on the up and up, even if Diebold did not have its machines ready, even if the PNAC strategists did not have their judges ready, even if the votes were counted.

Nor will he be the nominee. He will probably not win even one primary, despite the fact that he is clearly the most intelligent person in quite a while who has deigned to spend their time running for political office. American culture does not value intelligence, and it is more of a liability than an asset for a politician, which Sharpton is not.

He tells the truth. He is neither humble, nor deferential, and that makes some white Americans very nervous. There is no good reason for that. To reiterate, he will not win. He hardly has any money. He does not have celebrity endorsements, black or white.

A black man that makes white people that nervous makes many rich and successful black men nervous too, as if the stigma might rub off. The stigma of being smart, the stigma of being uppity. The stigma of not acting white.

Sharpton is congenitally shuffling-impaired. He is impossible to talk down to, impossible to condescend to, and if you try he will fry you up with some onions and enjoy you with ketchup, in a remarkably courteous way.

He is, to many whites, regardless of party affiliation, the anti-Powell.

He does not have light skin. He does not have a stately background of accolades and credit-to-his-race accomplishments on which stately light-skinned parents smile with quiet dignity and pride.

He used to be James Brown's stage manager, and then he became a civil rights activist, one of the loudest, brashest, in-your-face civil rights activists in the history of the Movement. Al made Hosea look diffident and soft-spoken. He wore bad 70s PimpWear. He is a preacher who can preach with the best of them, but when Al went to church outside the church, he didn't preach, and he didn't ask and he didn't shuffle. He demanded. And most of the time, he got. Maybe sometimes he got just because whoever was on the receiving end would do anything to make him go away, but his very name put fear in the hearts of the same white people who outwardly snickered at him.

The same ones who over the last few weeks have been scratching their heads and expressing surprise to learn that Al is so intelligent.

Now tell me about racism being a thing of the past.

For a lot of white people, Al Sharpton means only one thing. Tawana Brawley.

Al believed Tawana. He does not apologize for it, and indeed, the least believable aspect of her story was that she reported it.

Today, I overheard a white lady say that Sharpton had taught her that she is indeed a racist. She realized this when she caught herself thinking, if this guy were white, he could win.

Her conclusion was, if he does nothing else, he will make it damn hard for white people to continue to talk about how much "progress" has been made regarding race relations in the US.

I will go farther and suggest that maybe Al will get them to thinking about it.

And that is the greatest gift that any intelligent person can give his fellow human beings.

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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:40 PM
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1. Is anybody really arguing that racism is a thing of the past?
I don't know anyone who feels that way. I've never heard anyone say that.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:46 AM
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18. yes
there are people on this very web site who make that argument.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:45 PM
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2. Al Sharpton
is wonderful. I think he is doing very well and I adore him. He does not make me nervous he makes me happy with his style and grace and his way with words. You are so right about the greatest gift. May he be around to be heard forever.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:49 PM
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3. He owns the debates. There is no question there
You are right--in the current climate, no one will elect him president.
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:10 AM
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4. I was never a big Al Sharpton fan, until now.
I have never given his campaign much credence, but dammit HE says the things that HAVE to be said. We all owe him a huge debt of gratitude for that. Hang in as long as you can Al and keep tellin' it like it is.
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:15 AM
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5. You're kidding
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 12:18 AM by economic justice
"...clearly the most intelligent person in quite a while who has deigned to spend their time running for political office."

You ARE kidding, right? I have a neighbor who has a silver tongue and would be awesome in politics. He can say all the right things. That doesn't mean my neighbor should be elected president of the United States! Al Sharpton didn't even know what monetary policy WAS the other night! The guy is a complete flake. Recognizing this isn't RACISM on the part of white people -- it's common sense.

edit: Just read your post again and honestly, I find it racist as hell. If I posted something about Pat Buchanan and said that Pat makes black people nervous because he doesn't bow down to their wishes, etc.....you would call ME a racist! Cheap shot Fatwa!
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:28 AM
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7. LOL, I guess that's why Dean was metooing him on Greenspan the next day

Of course, when Dean said it, the media got all excited and started talking about Dean's remarks affecting the market.

Very few people noticed that Sharpton had said it the night before, and even fewer realized that he had said it before.

If Sharpton is such a flake, why get so upset?
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:22 AM
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6. DF, you are pure genius!
Hey I love Al! Racism does still exist and I'm not so sure that any here would dispute that fact. Sure the white right might but they are perhaps the most guilty.
Btw, where have you been, I've missed your posts lately.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:31 AM
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8. WOW Thanks! There is definitely less of it on here, and what there is

is the stuff that is so ingrained people don't even realize it.

I have been posting all kinds of inflammatory incitement, I don't know how you have missed it. Just pure luck, maybe ;)

Where have YOU been?
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:38 AM
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10. I ...
took a break for a while and also kicked my caffeine habit. I still can't believe I made it through without giving in, the withdrawal is much worse than I had imagined it would be. I'm glad to be done with it.
Anyway glad you're here! :hug:
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messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:32 AM
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9. Thanks for typing the subject that had to be typed!.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 01:09 AM
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11. So, you think OJ Simpson never slashed a couple of people's throats?
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 01:16 AM
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13. Not those 2 people on that particular night ;)

Start another thread if you like, and invite me.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:51 AM
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20. I don't honestly know If I think OJ "did it"
but he was found not guilty in the court. To me that means he is now innocent of those crimes. Innocent until proven guilty is still the american legal ideal I believe.

5 4 3 2 1....... let the screaming begin.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:22 AM
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23. I think..
you should start a thread, I would love to read it. I have read conflicting stories. I really do not know what to believe about what happened.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:19 AM
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25. OK, here is a link to the OJ thread
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:21 AM
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26. Thank you!
:hug:
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 01:13 AM
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12. I am glad that Al Sharpton is running he adds insight passion and
perspective to the race.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:16 AM
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14. I, for one, am very glad that Al Sharpton is still in the race
He brings up issues that need to be addressed and is, arguably, the best speaker on any platform. The reactions of the audiences are always enthusiastic. Because he knows he doesn't stand a chance, he is not hesitant in saying what needs to be said. I agree with you that Al is performing an important public service.:-)
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:29 AM
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15. Um No
OJ was guilty. Sharpton won't be President, because he's too angry. Also , black men do not make me nervous. I think it it clear that racism is rampant in this country, and sometimes whites are not the only bigots.
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rpf113 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:32 AM
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16. I love Al Sharpton.
He is definetly one of my favourite people in the world. But you have to admit that he is a niche candidate right now. Besides he is not the most educated or most experienced by any means. He is a wonderful man, a wonderful candidate, and a wonderful assett to the Democratic Party--and I believe he will become more and more powerful in the future...Senator from NY maybe?...--but I certainly don't believe he is not the frontrunner simply because he is black.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:45 AM
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17. I agree with almost everything you said
the only part we differ on is the intelligence part. I think he is one of the most intelligent people in the race. But intelligence is a weird thing to try and categorize. Different people use their native intelligence in different ways. I think all the candidates are very bright. I think some of them just choose to use their brains in craven activity.
I love that Rev Al doesn't "shuffle". I love that he brings issues to the debate that others do not. I signed up on his web site many months ago to volunteer. I thought that we could do some voter registration in this area. Never heard a word back.

I am not so crazy about his cheap shots at Gore and Dean.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:48 AM
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19. Thank you DuctapeFatwa for speaking
For me and for those of us who feel the same way about Sharpton, and for saying what we would say if we had the intelligence to organize our thoughts and words in the way that you always do.

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:10 AM
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21. I wanted to add.... I think it would be great if Al won SCarolina
I think it would be better if Dean did, but baring that I would love to see Sharpton take it. Can you imagine the media having to compose their faces and speak respectfully of the man?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 08:22 AM
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22. Great Post
The Reverend keeps a lot of important issues alive: racism, class wars, poverty.. and he does it with style, wit, and intelligence.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:34 AM
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31. Yes, he does
This race would not be the same, and much less engaging, if it were not for Al Sharpton.:-)
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:31 AM
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24. Unecessary smear against white people
"When you listened to people talk, a lot of the comments from whites sounded very similar to things you would have heard from white people in Alabama in 1963.

The OJ trial taught a lot of non-whites that in the hearts and minds of the white majority in the US, things had not really changed that much since racial apartheid was the law of the land."

The OJ trial was yet another example of a rich person buying themselves a "get out of jail" card. If OJ wasn't rich, he'd be in prison - regardless of his race.

The OJ trial taught us that race doesn't matter nearly as much as class.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:20 PM
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27. How do you feel it smears white people? (nt)
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:26 PM
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28. That comment was okay IMO
You did qualify it. This one is a smear: "The OJ trial taught a lot of non-whites that in the hearts and minds of the white majority in the US, things had not really changed that much since racial apartheid was the law of the land."

This comment certainly has made its way into the inboxes of many white friends and family members of conservative. Anti-white sentiment on DU damages us as much as anti-non-white sentiment on FreeRepubluc damages us.

How is it a smear? You essentially called all whites racist.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:28 PM
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29. I said nothing about all whites. All whites are not racists, in fact most

of those who are do not even realize it, it is so deeply ingrained in the culture.

The US has a diverse and heterogeneous population today, and to an extent, it always did, but as you are aware, the last few centuries of European pre-eminence have had their effect, and not just on whites, as the brisk trade in skin whiteners throughout Asia and Latin America will attest :evilgrin:

I would be flattered to think that you are right about peoples' inboxes. If it made just one person think, then I, like Al, will have done a Good Thing (TM)
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Carl Spackler Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:45 PM
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30. Some of my best friends are white people
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