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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:18 AM
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:22 AM
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1. I agree with Soros.
Edwards is charming and smart, and he'll be 58 in 2012, at which time he can pick Baltimore mayor Martin O'Malley as his running mate.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:22 AM
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2. Oh what a surprise!
Who would've ever guessed?
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:50 AM
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11. I am convinced I have developed psychic abilities
since 2001. There must have been something in the air at ground zero that activated my third eye.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:53 AM
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12. i remember him listing three candidates about a month ago
i tried to 'search' but the search engine still leaves something to be desired.

anyone remember who he picked last month?
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:10 AM
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17. Clark, Dean, and Kerry...
... if my memory is correct.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:08 PM
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24. You all liked it when he supported Dean.
Huh.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:37 PM
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26. I'm amazed. Absolutely amazed. 2 pro-war demos would give a most
complexicating view of 'security' and the 'war'. I can see it now: 'We supported the removal of Saddam and the sanctions that killed many Iraqi babies and wished we didn't have any casulaties or the bill for the war and our vote was right for America.'

Dean '04...The ONLY hope.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:22 AM
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3. didn't Edwards place second in Iowa?
The article says he placed third in both places?
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:27 AM
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4. Soros in Kerry's corner is great.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:28 AM
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5. The Billionaire Plutocrats have spoken
Anyone remember the history of this guy? Doesn't matter if he's on "our" side right? Time to fall in line, right?

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:41 AM
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6. Not quite, fortunately
If Soros said, "I will support ONLY Kerry," then you'd be right.

Soros expressed his opinion. Reading his remarks about Bush, I believe he will come through in any event.

I don't mind the billionaire plutocrats having opinions. It's their habit of buying elections that I don't like. Soros' allegiances are with the Democratic Party, not any personally-cultivated bagman.

--bkl
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:43 AM
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7. bwahahaha!
"Soros' allegiances are with the Democratic Party"

Now that's a stretch if I ever heard one!
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:59 AM
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14. The whole party is becoming his "personally-cultivated bagmen"
This is what plutocracy looks like.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:25 AM
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18. Do you suggest MoveOn turn down the money?
:eyes:
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:27 AM
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20. this question has been debated for 100 years
by left of center groups. Jane Addams had this same problem in Hull House.

The consensus - if the money has no string attached, is can be used for a specific purpose - but NOT for daily, ongoing expenses. Take Soros money for the commericals, but DO NOT rely on it to pay the rent and pay the staff.

If you make yourself reliant on billionaires, you have been bought, it's as simple as that. Temporary alliances are a fact of life.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:50 AM
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41. Yes, I agree, couldn't have said it better
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 01:10 AM
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42. Soros knows a winner when he sees one. (n/t)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:40 PM
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27. Hey, if you don't like it, go to Russia!
;-)

Oh wait, our Plutocrats go them too.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:44 AM
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8. Soros is crazy-----there's no way Kerry can win in the general election
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:07 AM
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16. Well we all know what you think.
I've read it several times, just as optimistic as ever.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:21 AM
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19. Soros is Crazy
like a fox
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:00 AM
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40. Having that kinda dough is enough to drive you nuts.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:47 AM
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9. Soros better find a way to pony up a few hundred million
Kerry ain't getting any from me.
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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:21 PM
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25. I'm sure your non-donation will devastate the Kerry campaign
He sure has been having trouble so far.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:48 AM
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10. Good to hear
Perhaps Soros will dig deeper into those very deep pockets if Kerry is the nominee and contribute some more mega bucks to groups that will run commercials against Bush-bot.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 09:57 AM
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13. Dean Blew it. Soros was "Keen of Dean." We have to be serious re. Bush

George Soros has decided that it is "a matter of life and death" to get rid of Bush in 2004. A lot of us here on DU should agree. Soros has already given 10 million dollars in August to 'America Coming Together' a get-out-the-vote 527 organization, and 2.5 million dollars to MoveOn.org. Soros says he supports Dean, Clark or Kerry equally. He said "I have great admiration for John Kerry and Wesley Clark. I am Keen on Dean." But, the issue is getting rid of Bush. And Soros is not alone in no concluding that Kerry is the strongest candidate for the mission.

So, with 527 orgs able of raise a ton of money to defeat Bush, the real issue is back to WHO IS THE BEST CANDIDATE to go against the Republicans.

We at DU represent the “thinking” class of the Democratic Party. It is time for tough-minded re-assessment of Kerry strenghts free of sentimental attachments to our preferred candidates.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:29 AM
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21. "Should" ? Nobody should take "shoulds" from WiseMen....
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:42 PM
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37. Kerry has strengths but also a glaring weakness
electorally speaking he is weak...see my threads about "the 800 lb gorilla nobody talks about" and "Democrats don't need the South"

go through the responses and give me your "tough-minded re-assessment free of sentimental attachments to your preferred candidate."
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Damn Hippie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:05 AM
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15. Well, that it then.
We might as well cancel the primaries and move straight to the convention for the annointment of our champion.
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nightperson Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:47 AM
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22. Yesssssss$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
Great though long overdue news! Thanks for posting this. :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :yourock:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:05 PM
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23. Boy, that convinces me.
Sorry to be so sarcastic, but I don't care what Soros says. He has nothing to do with my vote. I still see no reason to think that Kerry is the best man for the GE.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:41 PM
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28. Soros is always behind the front runner at a given time.
I guess he's ABB.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:43 PM
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29. Think I'll go search the archives for the people worshipping the water
Soros walks on a couple weeks ago...bet it would be interesting to compare the about face.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:19 PM
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30. Skip mine my friend. I've been slamming him from the start
Doesn't matter who he likes or wants; I see Soros as bad news period. At least one of the other people in this thread was vocal about that too but you could be very right about an about face. I don't remember names but I do recall being appalled at the recent Soros worship over the last few months.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:29 PM
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31. $54.55 on a crap table
That's what Soros is giving the Democratic Party to protect his investments- 0.0909090909090909% of his income- the equivalent of $54.55 from someone making $60,000/yr or $27.27 from someone making $30,000.

Wow. That's SOME committment! According to a 2003 article from Business Week, Soros "gave away" $2.4 billion to "charitable causes". Of course most of these were in Russia, Asia and Eastern Europe and would not be considered as "charitable" enterprises/gifts from the people of those countries (well not unless you consider the goals of the NED as charitable).


$54.55 Damn cheap if you ask me and Dems jumping up for joy ready to sell our soul not even asking what he wants in return. Putin has a pretty good idea and has already locked up Soros' oil friends (who just like Soros are part of Carlyle), shut down his Russian "charity/democracy" offices, and put a stop to all the capitalistic plunder of the Russian People's resources.


For $54.55 would we sell our soul?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:38 PM
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36. Where is he putting his money? I heard it was MoveOn.
What are their plans for the money?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:36 PM
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34. True. I don't see his support one way or another
as something to hype ....but, I do find it funny how fast folks drop or admire someone based on who they support.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:31 PM
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32. Because Soros & Kerry are two peas in a pod. (nt)
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 05:31 PM by stickdog
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:33 PM
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33. Just proves no one is right all the time.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:37 PM
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35. That's great.
I don't.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:44 PM
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38. Why would i care what a billionaire neoliberal thinks
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:32 PM
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39. But Soros never explains WHY Kerry is strongest, does he??
I have no clue as to why, myself. I have watched elections since 1960, and I think I can spot a winning candidate a mile away. There are two, still running, but apparently neither are going to be nominated. Imagine that.
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