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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:57 PM
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old and tired Victoria Toensing sat across the table from Bamford


that's James Bamford. on W.J. this a.m. to talk about the wire tapping bushgang.

she is one of bushgang's wicked witches invited to W.J. to bore us all with the same old, same old empty talk.

all the poor thing could say over and over was "when I was in govt...."

every time Bamford pointed out her fallacies she talked faster and changed the subject. it was amusing.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:04 PM
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1. I saw and heard exactly that. She makes me sick.
She totally blew off answering any questions and instead prattled on with the Bu$hco talking points.

"When I was in government...blah, blah, blah..." :grr:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:04 PM
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2. Yep.
She was giving the same excuses for Bush and company as she did for the outing of a CIA agent.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:09 PM
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3. She was pretty sickening all right. There seem to be so many
people willing to accept and spread lies for Dubco.

:puke:
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:11 PM
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4. M O N E Y
nt
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:24 PM
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7. True: For some M O N E Y always trumps Integrity, real values,
Christian or otherwise, as most values are the same in all major religions.

And the values aren't all that much lived up to by many in all major religions.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:27 PM
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5. What about the cellphone example, Jim? What about the cellphone example?
Bamford says: You care so much about investigating cellphone numbers, change the law. The FISA court has allowed the NSA to proceed with wiretaps 19,000-plus times and has turned them down five times in 30 years. Bamford is destroying her with facts and she responds with hypotheticals.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 02:13 PM
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6. Sombody Should Have Told Her
You were in government before 9/11. Nowadays there is no doubt that the FISA court would allow cell phones to be looked into. I was sorry Bramford didn't come right out and say that. He was way too polite.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:04 PM
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8. She was good with the obfuscatin', tangent takin', then flingin' poo at
the Dems, Jay Rockefeller in particular, the Congress all in an attempt to distract from the Royal F'ups of her Great Leader.

I'm going to practice that eye narrowing, head turned slightly, gesture just in case I'm a total shrew in my next life.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:49 PM
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18. lol
nt
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:06 PM
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9. Kept Singing Her Own Praises, and Interrpting
Of course that fucker Peter let her. Some repetititve bullshit about probable cause, and "answering HER question," blah, blah, blah. Broken record, that's for sure.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:56 PM
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13. Sounds like Victrola is skipping again--skipping again--skipping again,
somebody should give her a nudge.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:58 PM
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10. Isn't she married to that other screech monkey, Joe DeGenova?
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:14 PM
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11. She is the worst SHILL in Washington
They drag her out as an alleged "expert" on just about any topic, spinning her long history as a party hack, as if it were a legit resume.

She's married to an equally disgusting winger shill, who is also a utility winger for hire. I can't remember his name, but it will come to me.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:10 PM
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12. I would qualify that.
I would say she is the worst shill since Barbara Olsen (reportedly) died.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 10:27 PM
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14. It's good that you can
see what the enemy is up to..That lyin' ol' mediawhore would gross me out.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:27 PM
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15. Watching it now...This woman doesn't have the facts to back up her BS.
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 11:28 PM by LibInTexas
The rest of the time she doesn't make any sense. All rhetoric, no substance.

I love Bamford, he's got it together.

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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:51 PM
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16. The Republican operative with the Suburban Mommy & Daddy call
was terribly wierd. Sounded just like a talking point of the week-- he was trying to say that Suburban Mommy & Daddies would talk about protecting their civil rights and then be screaming when attacked by terrorists... !! Well, no, dear-- the suburban Moms & Dads are more like you, caller-- willing to throw the constitution in the trash if you get them riled up with fears. They'll try not to notice that in fact you had all the intelligence reports you needed to prevent 9/11-- or stop it in its tracks-- including warnings from several foreign intelligence agencies... Sick Republican talking points-- trying to shame those poor folks they've been trying to scare... AND YES, the liar Toensing just keeps on lying... Bottom line-- 19,000 FISA requests and ONLY FIVE refused-- end of story !! Glad Bamford is on top of it !!
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:57 AM
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17. Whenever you see Toensing ...
you always know why she's there, to shill for the right.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:11 PM
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19. I highly recommend Bamford's book
"Body of Secrets." He really knows the NSA.
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