When will the Major Media *analysis* and *scrutiny* of John Kerry begin?

[mzmolly]

I am afraid if we don't see it now, we'll see it when it's too late. In other words he'll get the nomination and then people will be subjected to controversy.

Not sticking around today guys, but I wondered if anyone seen *anything* that would indicate the media is taking an even honest look at all the top tier candidates? I sure haven't. Seems Kerry is skating in his front runner status to me...

[Cheswick2.0]

1. After the nomination is his

The right wants to run against him.

[liberalnurse]

25. I certainly think that is the fact......

Many of us see his as weak.....I do, because he is so vulnerable. The right will chew him up and spit him out for breakfast after we have annointed him.

Dean and Clark, the real threats, have already been assulted by the right and Kerry's dirty deeds.

[jpgray]

2. Botox? RNC? Medal-throwing? Conservative "veteran group" attacks?

Pay attention. You are only embarrassing yourself when you post something like this in a forum filled with articles critical of Kerry.

[mzmolly]

8. Im talking mass media, not DU scrutiny. Most americans don't read

much.

[sangh0]

10. So you didn't notice the links in those threads?

I had assumed you read the linked articles. My mistake. Sorry

[mzmolly]

Links to commondreams or the boston globe are not major media

most americans rely on the tele for news.

I've edited my post to reflect that. See any stories on CNN or MSNBC lately about John Kerry that aren't glowing? I don't.

[sangh0]

17. There are links to papers across the country

and there have been threads reporting on how cable-pundits like Hannity are attacking Kerry.

But you haven't seen them, so maybe it's not true.

[mzmolly]

20. Newspapers and Hannity are not the main place people heard about

other candidates in this race.

I would hope that MAJOR respected media outlets would start to examine him?

Hannity = Limbaugh on TV, he doesn't count.

[sangh0]

22. Jay Leno is a "MAJOR respected media outlet"????

Polls show thats where most people hear about the candidates, and news in general

[mzmolly]

27. Who the hell brought up Jay Leno. Id settle for ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, CNBC

MSNBC... You know the same guys who played the *scream* speech again and again.

[sangh0]

34. You asked for "the main place people heard" the candidates

Leno's show is where most people hear about the candidates.

And we've have already told you about mentions on some of the networks you list.

[sangh0]

3. You're kidding, right?

Look at page one in GD2004. Lots of Kerry threads with links to media hit pieces. I'm surprised you hadn't noticed because I've seen your posts in some of those threads.

[quinnox]

4. Do you really think Skull and Bones would allow that?

The control of the media is absolute, no skull and bones person will be examined critically, of that it is certain.

Dean has to bring down all the skull and bones people, and then set his sights on the illuminati if he wants Kerry to get critical press coverage.

[sangh0]

6. No way!! SnB doesn't allow books, news articles, movies, etc

about them to be released to the public, and quinnox has the books, news articles, and movies that prove it!!! :-)

[quinnox]

9. lol

Yea, but those videos are top secret, dont'cha know.

[rucky]

7. don't forget the Pod People n/t

[Feanorcurufinwe]

5. 35 years ago?

Boston Globe dishes the dirt on Kerry

[mzmolly]

11. Im talkin major media, I don't get the boston globe in Minnesota.

I'm flipping through CNN, FAUX, MSNBC and NADA!

[sangh0]

16. That's odd!!

In other threads, DUers are reporting (and repeating) that Hannity and other cable-cowards are attacking Kerry, but since you haven't seen that, I'm sure it's not true.

[mzmolly]

19. Hannity? OK? I bet Limbaugh is too... I would like to see a fair

examination of Kerry in the major *unbiased* media. I'll tune in today, but I won't hold my breath.

[sangh0]

23. WHo are you talking about?

You keep ranting about the "major *unbiased* media", but you haven't said who it is. So far, CNN, FNC, and newspapers across the nation aren't a part of it, but you won't say who is

[mzmolly]

28. Do share what you saw on CNN that was *scrutinizing* Kerry?

Hannity is on FAUX. BLM mentioned a quote that you all defended, so I haven't seen the media spin.


In fact, right now CNN is talking about Osama.

[sangh0]

35. Switching your argument

Before, FAUX wasn't a major media outlet. Now CNN is, even though more people watch FAUX.

[auntpattywatty]

12. When it's too late, and he is our nominee

[jsw_81]

13. John Kerry has been under media scrutiny since 1971

He was profiled on 60 Minutes at age 27! Unlike Dean, Kerry won't collapse under the pressure. And unlike Dean, he will be sworn in as President next January 20th.

[aquanut]

14. Why would they make their guy look bad.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&e=6&u=/ap/20040130/ap_on_el_pr/labor_kerry

[blm]

15. HAHAHAHAHA...only for THIRTY YEARS. He was SCAIFED before Clinton.

Surely you must be somewhat aware of the Nixon tapes and years later the Scaife project against Kerry during his investigations of IranContra? They ameared him as a "conspiracy theory nut" and they tagged him with a full FBI investigation.

Why the heck do you think the corporate media declared his candidacy dead for months? They were protecting Bush.

btw....weren't you one of those piling on with the media? Weren't you gleeful the media tried to keep his candidacy dead?

Kerry actually had to score some WINS before the press gave him appropriate coverage.

[mzmolly]

18. Well I hope they share this information again before it's too late.

I am not a resident of Boston, so Kerry means nothing much to me. Most of America is unaware of what you just said BLM. I am aware because I read DU. That accounts for a very small percentage of the population.

*Surely* your aware that CNN has not discussed the controversy you just noted?

I predict it will come out in say, October of 04?

[jsw_81]

21. Are you joking?

CNN was talking about this months ago.

[sangh0]

24. but, but, but

mzmolly hasn't seen it, so maybe it didn't really happen


:shrug:

[mzmolly]

29. Yes, and they have since dropped it. Why? Kerry has been forgotten

and revived, it's time to revive the debate on him as well.

[sangh0]

36. You asked when the scrutiny would begin

and you got your answer. SO now you rephrase your question without acknowledging your original question has been answered.

[bloom]

26. I noticed on Wednesday

that Cspan has been giving coverage to people attacking Kerry. This seemded like a new thing to me.

Ed Gillespe at the American Consevative Whatever was complaining about how liberal Kerry is... some body yesterday that I don't remember and today on the Washington Review. It was decided by the guy from the Washington Times and the Cspan guy (sorry- I don't remember his name) that it would be a wash - Bushes* AWOL record and Kerry throwing his medals back and dissing what was going on in Vietnam.

Seemed like CNN reiterated what Gillespie said in an off-hand sort of way.

[mzmolly]

30. Calling a Democrat an anti war liberal is helpful to his cause if he

served in the military. It softens his image and smooths over the apprehension on the left about a military guy in the OO.

But I'm going to watch some more today and see whats said, if anything.

[sangh0]

37. So now we have C-SPAN to add to the list

but you still won't admit that your question is based on the mistaken assumption that the major media has never scrutinized Kerry

[DemNoir]

31. Take a look

At some of the many Boston Globe articles about Kerry over the years. They have always been on his case full throttle. He is accustomed to severe media scrutiny

[mzmolly]

33. Again, I'm talkin CNN, NBC, ABC, etc... the Boston Globe was not

Deans biggest nightmare. In fact, I'd have loved it if Dean's scrutiny was limited to the fargen globe. ;)

[sangh0]

39. It's been on FAUX, CSPAN, newspapers across the nation

talk radio, etc all of which you somehow didn't include on your list, so keep pretending the media hasn't scrutinized Kerry

[mzmolly]

44. What is *it*?

I'm talking this week, not 9 months ago.

[killbotfactory]

32. Right after his coronation.

Then the mud will start to fly.

[MidwestMomma]

41. Is that coronation scheduled for Feb 3rd or will they throw us a bone

and put it off until the next round of primaries? I hope they put it off as I don't have a thing to wear to a coranation! }(

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

38. November 3, 2004

n/t

[John_H]

40. I'm not sure it will until the General Election. Here's why.

The GOP's first choice, Dean, is gone. Have you noticed that even his big pundit backers (Tweety aside from his softball interview thurday night, Scarlborough, Connoly, et al) have jumped off the bandwagon?

Out of the viable candidates left--Kerry, Clark, and Edwards, I think the GOP has decided that Kerry is the most vulnerable to the ugly campaign they intend to run--Clark is obviously a sure defeat for them and Edwards may have the charisma and niceguyism to make their attacks backfire.

Kerry, if only because of his long record and pro IWR voting, is the least of their evils.

Which is not to say that they can beat Kerry. Clark is a sure thing, but I think Kerry has a pretty good shot.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

42. When will the other candidates challenge him?

They're all so timid now. Didn't used to be that way. I wonder what it means? (I really don't wonder.)

[milkyway]

43. It began this morning on the front page of the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64727-2004Jan30.html?nav=hptop_tb

[mzmolly]

45. Thanks I think I'll send it to major media incase they are uninformed

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