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Vis Numar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:26 PM
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John Kerry's Newt Gingrich Problem?
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 03:53 PM by Vis Numar
After Newt Gingrich hit the national spotlight in 1994 by becoming the first Republican speaker of the House in 40 years, he was skewered by reports that he had served his first wife divorce papers as she lay in a hospital bed battling cancer.

But the press has been far kinder to Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry, who, according to published accounts going back more than a decade, began extricating himself from his first marriage to Philadelphia heiress Julia Thorne at the same time she was battling a case of depression so debilitating that it drove her to the brink of suicide.

In an attempt to explain why he decided not to let his wife's precarious mental state derail his 1982 bid to become Michael Dukakis' lieutenant governor, Kerry told the New Yorker magazine last December, "When I get focused and set out to do something, I'm pretty good at staying focused."

"You don't want to let yourself down, you know what I'm saying?" added the ambitious Democrat without a hint of irony.

Thorne, whose family is reportedly worth $300 million, married Kerry in 1970. According the New Yorker's Joe Klein, the couple's friends said Julia was not a typical political wife.

"There were times at dinner parties when John would be very pompous, unable to control his impulse to make a speech," one acquaintance told the writer. "It was all slightly laughable, and Julia was one of those who laughed. She'd say things like, 'What the f--k did you just say?'"

Kerry's career focus was so intense that Thorne apparently felt she was an impediment to her husband's ambitions. In her 1994 book about that period in her life, titled "You Are Not Alone," she wrote:

"I could no longer pretend I was of use to my husband or my children. ... I knew that, once I was gone, my family and friends would be relieved of the burden of my incompetency."

By Thorne's own account, she began to contemplate suicide a full two years before Kerry ratcheted up his 1982 campaign. Reviewing her book shortly after it was published, the Boston Globe reported: "One night in 1980, Julia Thorne put her children to bed and then sat on the edge of her own bed to contemplate suicide. She was exhausted - overwhelmed by despair, self-loathing and pain. She wanted to lie down. Curl up. Sleep forever."

The Kerrys were separated in 1982 but didn't divorce until 1988.

Press summaries of the New Yorker report focused on other details of Kerry's life story, such as his Vietnam heroism. Most omitted any mention of Kerry's first wife altogether, a fact that likely pleased the Massachusetts Democrat. "Kerry is understandably loath to talk about the details of the marriage," noted Klein.

In response to the New Yorker report, Sen. Kerry wrote what was described as "an anguished letter" of protest to the magazine. Thorne's two daughters by Kerry also registered their displeasure. Their mother, who has since conquered her depression and is happily remarried and living in Montana, told the Globe, "I support John's candidacy, and I believe in John's candidacy. I think he is an immensely talented statesman, and I am 100 percent behind him."

But previous reports indicate that Thorne had problems with Kerry even after they split 21 years ago.

During the period the Kerrys were separated, for instance, the senator apparently felt little constrained by his marital vows. Gossip columns at the time linked him to Morgan Fairchild, Cornelia Guest and even President Reagan's liberal daughter, Patti Davis. An upcoming Boston Globe expose will reportedly feature details of the Massachusetts Democrat's 1980s affair with a 25-year-old British reporter.

According to a previous account offered by the paper, the fact that Kerry was still technically married till 1988 "reportedly came as a surprise to some of his frequent companions."

Just weeks before his May 26, 1995, remarriage to Ketchup heiress Theresa Heinz, Thorne took Kerry to court in a bid for an increase in child support payments, arguing that "his income was up substantially," according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

Both Kerry and Thorne denied that the lawsuit had anything to do with Heinz or her fortune.

But friction arose again two years later when Kerry, a Catholic, applied to the Washington, D.C., archdiocese to have his marriage to Thorne annulled, even though the couple had two grown daughters.

Thorne "has written a letter of opposition to the archdiocese because she feels the process demeans their relationship and their children," reported the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in 1997.

The paper blamed Kerry's new wife on the annulment bid. His office issued a terse statement: "Sen. Kerry very much understands Julia's feelings and appreciates her support. Sen. Kerry believes that this is a private family matter."

The Washington Times noted in a Kerry profile several years ago that his critics consider him "a ruthless political opportunist." Given some of the more obscure details of Kerry's first marriage, that assessment may not be too far off the mark.


http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2003/5/12/120519






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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:39 PM
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1. Link? /eom
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:47 PM
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4. The link is Newmax...you couldn't guess by the article?
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D G Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:49 PM
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7. Geez... when did DU start supporting Newsmax?
Next thing you know, O'Reilly will have integrity and Coulter will be the next Simone Weil.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:50 PM
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9. sounded like typical right wing crap
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:53 PM
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14. Shoulda
guessed.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:43 PM
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2. Kerry has a GOLDDIGGER problem
whether he is or isn't. That is one thing that will bog him down in the late night comedy jokes. Marrying 2 different women worth a combined billion dollars or more will not go over well with voters
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:45 PM
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3. Sounds to me like good fiscal planning!
j/k
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lurk_no_more Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:04 PM
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22. So now it's unpopular to marry money twice?
I should be that unpopular!


And then there were none!
” JAFO”

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:51 PM
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10. why ?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:53 PM
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15. George Washington married a wealthy woman. Reagan married Jane Wyman.
"that dog wont hunt" as Clinton would say.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:48 PM
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5. did you write this ?
looks like right wing crap like they threw at clinton to me.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:49 PM
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6. Ohhh cut to the chase....Just go straigh to Annthrax Coulter
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Vis Numar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:56 PM
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19. gawd, how can we nominate this guy!?!?!
For over 30 years, Kerry's primary occupation has been stalking lonely heiresses. Not to get back to his combat experience, but Kerry sees a room full of wealthy widows as "a target-rich environment." This is a guy whose experience dealing with tax problems is based on spending his entire adult life being supported by rich women. What does a kept man know about taxes?


In 1970, Kerry married into the family of Julia Thorne -- a family estimated to be worth about $300 million. She got depressed, so he promptly left her and was soon seen catting around with Hollywood starlets, mostly while the cad was still married. (Apparently, JFK really was his mentor.) Thorne is well-bred enough to say nothing ill of her Lothario ex-husband. He is, after all, the father of her children -- a fact that never seemed to constrain him.


When Kerry was about to become the latest Heinz family charity, he sought to have his marriage to Thorne annulled, despite the fact that it had produced two children. It seems his second meal ticket, Teresa Heinz, wanted the first marriage annulled -- and Heinz is worth more than $700 million. Kerry claims he will stand up to powerful interests, but he can't even stand up to his wife.


Heinz made Kerry sign a prenuptial agreement, presumably aware of how careless he is with other people's property, such as other people's Vietnam War medals, which Kerry threw on the ground during a 1971 anti-war demonstration.


At pains to make Kerry sound like a normal American, his campaign has described how Kerry risked everything, mortgaging his home in Boston to help pay for his presidential campaign. Technically, Kerry took out a $6 million mortgage for "his share" of "the family's home" -- which was bought with the Heinz family fortune. (Why should he spend his own money? He didn't throw away his own medals.) I'm sure the average working stiff in Massachusetts can relate to a guy who borrows $6 million against his house to pay for TV ads.


Kerry's campaign has stoutly insisted that he will pay off the mortgage himself, with no help from his rich wife. Let's see: According to tax returns released by his campaign, in 2002, Kerry's income was $144,091. But as The Washington Post recently reported, even a $5 million mortgage paid back over 30 years at favorable interest rates would cost $30,389 a month -- or $364,668 a year.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:02 PM
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21. Wow! That was fast
Looks like one of them there coordinated attack thingees.

Well, at least this time we can't blame other Democrats for the dirt throwing. At least not yet.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:49 PM
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8. tripe
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:51 PM
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11. Did Richard Mellon Scaife write this himself?
I can't tell.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:51 PM
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12. You should put the link to the article in the post
Got the link?
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:52 PM
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13. Oops, I stumbled into the free republic... o wait....
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Vis Numar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:54 PM
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16. so, is this lies?
Attacking the messenger won't work.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:55 PM
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17. right wingers lie
if you are getting this from right wing sources then we have reason to question it. and question the person posting it.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:56 PM
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18. This pretty well negates the rest
Thorne: "I support John's candidacy, and I believe in John's candidacy. I think he is an immensely talented statesman, and I am 100 percent behind him."

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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:11 PM
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25. That's fairly naive, in my opinion
The question is not what Ms. Thorne says, it's what Kerry did. Up in NYC Mayor Giuliani tried to get his marraige annulled so he could marry another woman in the Church. It was pretty sleazy, sez I.

If this story is true it is a prime example of how opposition research can screw with even the strongest opponents. How do you counter Kerry's Viet credentials? Attack him on family values.

Oh, and if you can attack his masculinity by describing him as a kept man, a gigolo, you can really undermine his macho image. And this is just the opening gun.

I just can't figure why this was rolled out this early, before he had the nomination all sewed up. These Repugs are confusing the hell out of me with this one.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:58 PM
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20. Just...wonderful. Here it comes, just in time for the primaries.
Is this stuff true? Do we have to go to NEWSMAX to read stuff like this? Why not the National Enquirer? Isn't this on the stands right next to the Space Alien Endorses Bush headlines?

And if it is true, how in God's name did anyone think it wouldn't be dredged out? I mean, these guys hung Waco around Clark's neck and it turned out to be Bush's favorite Christian Warrior, General Boykin that was involved with that one.

I can't wait to see the Thorne-Kerry Story on Lifetime next week.

It's a soap opera among the rich and famous for Pete's sake.

Just wonderful. If this is what the headlines are going to be over the next few weeks things just couldn't be better. Thank you all so very much.
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lurk_no_more Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:10 PM
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23. Kerry's Zipper
Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,Kerry's Zipper,


And then there were none!
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