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unlawflcombatnt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:15 PM
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86% Think Bush Should Be IMPEACHED.
This poll has probably been posted multiple times before. However, I'm posting it again in case some haven't seen it yet.

Below is a copy of the latest MSNBC-Newweek poll on Impeaching Bush.



(I strongly suggest copying this poll down, as it may be pulled off the internet by Corporate Media Nazis.)

Here's a direct link to the poll: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904#survey

How many here think Bush should be impeached?
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:17 PM
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1. Wow 190,000 votes
unfortunately it will never be cited ON MSNBC
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unlawflcombatnt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 06:23 PM
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12. Non-Reporting
Your absolutely right. That's why I'm doing my best to report it in as many other places as possible. I'd urge everyone to take this image link and post it in as many places as you can think of.

If we can't count on the Right-Wing News media to report the truth, we'll have to do it ourselves.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:17 PM
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2. I'm not sure I buy this...
I've seen this poll, and indeed even voted in it, but I'm not convinced that these results are legit. Not that I wouldn't love it if they were...
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:21 PM
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3. On-line poll....yawn. n/t
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:21 PM
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4. wow I'm surprised it's so high!
I think people are unsure about his behaviors and are finally wondering, but I don't think a majority of the population is in favor of impeachment.... although if Clinton could be impeached for as little as actually occurred, there isn't a reason Bush couldn't be.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:28 PM
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6. It says right on the poll itself
"Not a scientifically valid survey"

Why people get so worked up about it is beyond me.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:22 PM
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5. Voted, ty n/t
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:33 PM
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7. Clearly, the poll's been DUed. My question is . . .
Since it's been up for more than a week, why hasn't it been Freeped?
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:43 PM
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9. You can only vote once on those MSNBC polls
I'm amazed some posters thinks it's not possible for most people to think he should be impeached.I don't think it was DU'd at all. Most people want rid of this imbecile.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:48 PM
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11. You can vote as often as you like. Just clear your cookies.
Everybody knows that. Oldest trick in the book (I just voted twice).

To "DU" a poll incessantly, and then to tout the findings of it is just plain intellectual dishonesty.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:48 PM
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27. I'm not that interested in taking the time to clear my cookies
to give our side higher numbers. I vote once in a poll and leave it at that. I could care less about these polls.Bu$h is still in office no matter WHAT the polls say. Looks like he will stay there for the next 3 years to do more damage to us and to our country. Sickening....just plain sickening. :puke:
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unlawflcombatnt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:19 PM
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14. Freeped
It probably has. There just aren't enough lunatic Reich-Wingers to sway the results, like they did with the much-quoted Rasmussen poll.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:34 PM
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16. Are we suddenly facing a "Freeper Gap?"
Oh, joy, oh rapture. (Not THAT rapture).
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:50 PM
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28. They are voting too, skewing the poll
I went over there to see what they were saying. On every Conservative site (shower time, ugh) they said to go to the poll and vote for impeachment to mess with MSNBC and the Dems. I guess they knew they couldn't win so they decided to lose so big it would be suspicious.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:34 PM
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8. Impeachment proceedings should begin NOW.........
how much more evidence do we need to begin removing this maniac and the rest of the WH gang from office. It is unbelievable that impeachment proceedings began with Clinton for such a minor event and bush is still out flying around and 'campaigning' like nothing ever happened. Does anyone in congress still have a backbone? Are the corporations in control to the point where bushco can commit any act without consequences? Who is running the Washington D.C. Insane Asylum?
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 05:45 PM
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10. Its not scientific but
One week in the middle of the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, more than 200,000 people took part in an MSNBC Live Vote that asked whether President Clinton should leave office. Seventy-three percent said yes. That same week, an NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll found that only 34 percent of about 2,000 people who were surveyed thought so.


Clinton was at 73% for impeachment Bush is at 86%

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unlawflcombatnt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 06:25 PM
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13. Bush Beats Clinton on this one
Post this everywhere you can, because the news media will suppress this information.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:04 PM
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26. Any Suggestions
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Dongfang Hong Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 09:16 PM
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22. Self-selected poll; non-scientific.
Still a mildly interesting bellwether.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:24 PM
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15. Could be overseas visitors skewing the poll, also...
Edited on Mon Jan-02-06 07:32 PM by CJCRANE
on edit: also notice the question is quite broad:
"Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial."

So the yes vote would incorporate four groups:

1) those who want impeachment for secret spying
2) those who want impeachment for deceptions leading to war
3) those who want impeachment for other transgressions
4) those who want impeachment for all of the above
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kynn Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:38 PM
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17. Why are the Dems in DC so quiet about impeachment?
Edited on Mon Jan-02-06 07:38 PM by kynn
This is what I just can't get... The only explanation I can think of is that they are afraid that the fear of an impeachment will galvanize the Republican voters by heightening their concern over the possibility of losing the House in 2006.

If this is the thinking of the Democratic strategists I think that, once more, they are being timid. I think that, on the contrary. If the country is really for impeachment, or at least for a serious look at it, then they will want to kick out the corrupt Republicans. In other words, impeachment in the wind will help, not hurt, the Democrats.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:51 PM
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18. Impeachment is serious business (unless, of course, it's . . .
about a blow job, which makes it bathetic). Dems can't leap on without 1) more ammo (from the legal beagles); 2) more outrage (from the public); and more disgust (from the few patriots and true conservatives left in the Republican party).

While I admit to fearing that this will fizzle out like the last 15 impeachable acts admitted by this president, I'm hoping to be proved wrong. I don't think America has the stomach for an imperial presidency of this sort.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:56 PM
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19. Hell! The Question Right Now is: Why are the Dems So Quite on
Telling Bush he has to CEASE AND DESIST with this Domestic Spying program?

Not a fucking word!! WHY NOT????

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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 09:36 PM
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24. Dems MUST define the agenda ...

No doubt that the impeachment issue will galvanize the die-hard conservatives. But the spygate issue is an excellent wedge for the Democrats.

Just remember that Karl Rove will "invent" an issue for the 2006 election. Perhaps it will be "war on Christmas" or maybe they'll move another flag burning amendment through Congress.

The Republicans WILL have an issue that plays to their strengths and rally the troops. That issue will also galvanize Democrats but not necessarily rally them to the polls.

Make 2006 a recall election on GW Bush and keep the Democratic issues on the front page.

Finally, don't fall into the "Democrats have no idea" trap. That is, this is what Republicans say when they get criticism. Don't listen. When you find yourself in a hole, the best idea is to STOP DIGGING!!!! Yes we have ideas, don't do what GW Bush does!!!! Those are EXCELLENT ideas!!!

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kynn Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:57 PM
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20. Fascinating...
This paragraph in Fineman's article caught my eye:


For months now, I have been getting e-mails demanding that my various employers (Newsweek, NBC News and MSNBC.com) include in their poll questionnaires the issue of whether Bush should be impeached. They used to demand this on the strength of the WMD issue, on the theory that the president had “lied us into war.” Now the Bush foes will base their case on his having signed off on the NSA’s warrant-less wiretaps. ... The “I-word” is out there, and, I predict, you are going to hear more of it next year — much more.



I hope that other polling organizations (the Gallups and the Zogbys) find themselves under the same pressure to start asking the public about impeachment, and publishing the results.

The fact that Fineman refers to the “I-word” is a reminder that the press and the pollsters are still deathly afraid to even broach this subject. They need "encouragement".

The Democrats should make it a tactical goal to have “I-word” on the covers of national magazines by Presidents' day, if not by the State of the Union address.
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Don1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 09:11 PM
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21. I voted, too, now.
Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 190420 responses


Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
86%

No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4%

No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
8%

I don't know.
2%
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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 09:30 PM
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23. THIS is why Democrats have to push this ...

They don't have the power to do it, but they can run a 2006 Congressional campaign on a VERY popular sentiment. IMPEACH BUSH!!!!

You will force the Republicans to take a stand on the issue for or against. If they come out for, they will effectively alienate themselves from their own party. When MOST are forced to come out AGAINST they will be on the losing end of public opinion.

However, if Democrats DO NOT push this now, they will not be able to push it during the 2006 campaign. Don't count on Republican "hearings" to help. They will stall like crazy to get anything substantial delayed.

Turn this election into a "recall by impeachment" election!!!!!



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kynn Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 09:36 PM
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25. Beatifully put...
Right on target.
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