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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:00 AM
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Same Feeling I Had When We Were Told Bush Won Florida After....
we were told Gore won. This is what we have to come to expect in *'s America.

Only one miner alive.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:02 AM
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1. Same feeling. It's really sick. Thanks Corporate Whore$...
...for checking your sources.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:06 AM
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2. Could It Be A Rove Dirty Trick To Discredit The Democratic Governor?...
It gives the press something to talk about to get them off of the Abramoff scandal. It lets the O'Lielly's, Insanity's and Oxyrush's the ability to dump on a democrat just like they did in Louisiana and that governor.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:19 AM
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5. No one can figure out what caused the explosion.
It Ratherizes Anderson Cooper, damages the Dem Governor, VERY conventiently takes the spotlight off the Abramoff guilty plea and NSA revelations, makes the New Year look grim, and traumatizes the workers in an industry which has recently been taken over by one company and faces union weakening, doesn't it?

It couldn't possibly be a Rovian trick.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:25 AM
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8. What about the MANY citations against the mine
Let's see. If a major corporation bought the miine six weeks ago and had time to only correct half of the violations, who is responsible?
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:28 AM
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10. Did you hear about where the explosion came from?
It came from the old part of the mine and one expert I heard said he couldn't imagine how there could be an explosion there.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 04:21 AM
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11. Another Coincidence Or * & Rove Are The Luckiest Men Alive...n/t
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:08 AM
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3. You gotta be fucking kidding me!
I know you're not. I just confirmed it. This is insane. Fucking insane.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:11 AM
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4. The story, plucked from the Miami Herald, seconds before they changed it

12 of 13 trapped W.Va. miners found alive
ALLEN G. BREED
Associated Press

TALLMANSVILLE, W.Va. - Twelve of the 13 miners trapped in an explosion in a coal mine were found alive late Tuesday after more than 41 hours underground, turning a community's worst fears to unbridled joy. Family members streamed from the church where they had kept vigil, shouting "Praise the Lord!"

Bells at the church rang out as family members ran out screaming in jubilation. Relatives yelled "They're alive!"

"They told us they have 12 alive," said Gov. Joe Manchin, leader of the nation's No. 2 coal-producing state. "We have some people that are going to need some medical attention."

At least one of the surviving miners was hospitalized early Wednesday at St. Joseph's Hospital in Buckhannon, which was on high alert and had called in all employees. Hospital spokeswoman Lisa Turner said the man was listed in critical condition.

The other miners' conditions were unknown, and several ambulances with flashing red lights were parked at the mine entrance.

Mine officials earlier found extremely dangerous levels of carbon monoxide in the part of the mine where the men where believed to have been. The odorless, colorless gas can be lethal at high doses. At lower levels, it can cause headaches, dizziness, disorientation, nausea, fatigue and brain damage.

The miners "are being moved to the surface, and their condition is being assessed while they are being moved," said Manchin spokesman Tom Hunter.

Rescue crews found the body of a 13th miner earlier Tuesday evening and said they were holding out hope that the others were still alive, even as precious time continued to slip away.

The mine's owner, International Coal Group Inc., did not immediately confirm that the 12 other men were alive. A relative at the church said a mine foreman called relatives there, saying the miners had been found.

A few minutes after word came, the throng, several hundred strong, broke into a chorus of the hymn "How Great Thou Art," in a chilly, night air.

"Miracles happen in West Virginia and today we got one," said Charlotte Weaver, wife of Jack Weaver, one of the men who had been trapped in the mine.

"I got scared a lot of times, but I couldn't give up," she said. "We have an 11-year-old son, and I couldn't go home and tell him, 'Daddy wasn't coming home.'"

There were hugs and tears among the crowd outside the Sago Baptist Church near the mine, about 100 miles northeast of Charleston.

Helen Winans, whose son Marshall Winans, was one of those trapped, said she believes there was divine intervention.

"The Lord takes care of them," she said.

The miners had been trapped 260 feet below the surface of the mine since an explosion early Monday.

The body was found about 700 feet from a mine car, and it appeared the employee was working on a beltline, which brings coal out of the mine, said Ben Hatfield, chief executive officer for ICG of Ashland, Ky.

Michelle Mouser of Morgantown said her family believed the dead miner was her uncle, Terry Helms.

"You've got the 12 that went in the buggy and the one who was dropped off at the belt," said Mouser, who was to identify the body. "It was my uncle who gets the belt running."

The mine car was empty, which led rescuers to believe the others may have been safe somewhere else in the mine.

"I'm really glad for all the others; it's a miracle," she said.

Company officials stressed throughout the ordeal that the miners were trained to barricade themselves in a safe area in an emergency.

"The experience is what helped get him get out, no doubt in my mind," said John Groves, whose brother Jerry Groves, a 30-year miner, was among those trapped.

J. Davitt McAteer, who was director of the Mine Safety and Health Administration under the Clinton administration, said finding the miners alive had seemed improbable.

"You had an explosion. You had a toxic atmosphere. They had to find some way to barricade themselves," he said.

ON THE NET

Federal Mine Health and Safety Administration: http://www.msha.gov

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Associated Press writers Vicki Smith, Jennifer C. Yates and Mark Williams in Tallmansville contributed to this report.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:20 AM
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6. I wasn't awake yet, sheeple wise. I didn't know the feeling
But now I do. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, FUCK!
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:21 AM
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7. Make the media pay for this!
One miner alive in critical condition. I pray that all the families survive this abuse. A lot of media dolls with big *holes on their faces, as if they ever actually cared.

(Long Enraged Rant curtailed in deference to grieving families)

CORRUPT REPUBLICANS
IMPEACH THEM ALL
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 03:28 AM
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9. not only that
but how many newpapers have gone to print with the old story already???


terrible flashback to the 2000 election--I was working for a college paper, and we had named Gore as the winner in big headlines....Had a little backtracking to do the next day
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 04:35 AM
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12. After Fa. I felt dread. On the mines it is always the same feeling
I once went into the Spring hill Mine in NS and I am sure it was the 'good' part they let people into and I felt it was so scary. What a place to work. I also was shocked to find out men had to bend over if the vain was low say 4 feet high and that is how they had to work all day. The man said these mines ran 5 miles out into the sea. It was an interesting place to see as it really made you open your eyes but really scary.I once met a man who said his father had died in that mine and he could not get away fast enough from any mines.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-04-06 04:51 AM
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13. Jeez, what a punch to the gut.
This is almost unbelievable.
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