Easy to read graph from the NYT

[LeftNYC]

[leftchick]

1. where are the bush contributions?

curious.

[LeftNYC]

2. Good point.

I am going to shoot off a letter to the Times!

[LeftNYC]

6. I sent this email to the Times

On your Abramoff graph, I believe you forgot contributions that Mr. Abramoff made to George W. Bush. President Bush’s name is not listed on your graph. Here is some background info. Thank you. I look forward to your correction or response.



MARIANA ISLANDS — BUSH SUPPORTED ABRAMOFF CLIENT INTERESTS, RECEIVED DONATIONS: Abramoff was hired by the Saipan Garment Manufacturers Association and the Northern Mariana Islands to “stop legislation aimed at cracking down on sweatshops and sex shops in the American territory.” In 1997, “Abramoff charged the Marianas for getting then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush to write a letter expressing support for the Pacific territory’s school choice proposal, his billing records show. … Abramoff and his wife each gave $5,000 to Bush’s 2000 recount fund and the maximum $1,000 to his 2000 campaign. By mid-2003, Abramoff had raised at least $100,000 for Bush’s re-election campaign, becoming one of Bush’s famed ‘pioneers.’ … Money also flowed from the Marianas to Bush’s re-election campaign: It took in at least $36,000 from island donors, much of it from members of the Tan family, whose clothing factories were a routine stop for lawmakers and their aides visiting the islands on Abramoff-organized trips.”

[Sparkman]

3. Your chart shows NO $$ from J.A. to Dems, just Indian Tribe contributions.

[leftchick]

4. because JA did not give any money to Dems...

Zip, Zero, Nada! Though I am sure the TV will say different. :eyes:

[LeftNYC]

5. First, this isnt my chart

second, as stated above, dems did not receive money directly from Abramoff, but only through the tribes. Once again, this is not illegal.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

8. Legality is the important point, I think

Would you say the black bars after names are less likely to be legal, since they are from Abramoff himself?

[LeftNYC]

10. I would say the more bars, the more interest it will draw

Did the person know how Abramoff was getting his money? Did they care?(Not so much if they took it). Did they do favors for Abramoff after receiving the money? I wonder if Jack ever made an honest dollar?

[Sparkman]

9. The tribes have EVERY RIGHT TO LOBBY congress, like any other Corp!

Right wrong or indifferent, until the rules change, they deserve anything they can get. AND nobody is dying when tribes lobby for favors. Unlike the war profiteers' lobbyists.

[LynzM]

7. Look at the huge black bar next to DeLay's name....

Wow. Nice illustration, thanks.

[virtual disobedience]

11. Here's a list of recipients that does its best to muddy the waters

http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_recips.asp

I just started a thread on this, but don't know where they got their numbers. Nor do I know the politics of capitaleye.com .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2348828&mesg_id=2348828