Sibel Edmonds: Blogger on the right track!

[Tuesday_Morning]

Gagged whistleblower Sibel Edmonds has verified that a comprehensive review of her public statements has provided one particularly dedicated blogger with the most accurate picture yet of the web of corruption she has long tried to expose.

i got an email from sibel edmonds the other day after she had read some of my posts about her story - basically she wanted to let me know that i was on the right track (and that virtually no-one else is).
More after the fold:

Necons Will Ban Me's diary :: ::
So what then is the "right track"? Evidently the American Turkish Council, AIPAC, the Usual Neocon Suspects (Feith/Perle/Wolfowitz/Libby) and specific high-ranking individuals including former Turkish ambassadors Eric Edelman and Marc Grossman are deeply involved in global arms smuggling, drug-dealing, money-laundering and black market nuclear sales to terrorists. Individuals involved in this crime nexus were instrumental in the outing of Valerie Plame in an effort to sabotage the work of CIA front Brewster Jennings - which was seen as increasingly threatening to them.

The bottom line seems to be that a group of influential lobbyists, high-ranking officials and diplomats in Turkey, Israel, the United States and the 'Stans --with the neocons at the center of all of it-- are caught up in a very large, fantastically lucrative and staggeringly corrupt scheme to facilitate precisely the ills (terrorism, arms proliferation, drug smuggling) these countries all claim to want stopped.

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/1/6/154331/1458

[NanceGreggs]

1. Great post!

As I've often said, the Iraq War is the biggest money-laundering scheme ever devised.

Look at who profits -- and there's no need to look any further.

[ClayZ]

2. K and R Must Read

:kick:

[TomClash]

3. Where's Mike Ruppert?

This is an angle that he would greatly appreciate.

[babylonsister]

4. Per Sibel, add Hastert to the list:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9774.ht ...

snip//

In her secure testimony, Edmonds disclosed some of what she recalled hearing. In all, says a source who was present, she managed to listen to more than 40 of the Chicago recordings supplied by Robertz. Many involved an F.B.I. target at the city’s large Turkish Consulate, as well as members of the American-Turkish Consulate, as well as members of the American-Turkish Council and the Assembly of Turkish American Associates.

Some of the calls reportedly contained what sounded like references to large scale drug shipments and other crimes. To a person who knew nothing about their context, the details were confusing and it wasn’t always clear what might be significant. One name, however, apparently stood out – a man the Turkish callers often referred to by the nickname “Denny boy.” It was the Republican congressman from Illinois and Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert. According to some of the wiretaps, the F.B.I.’s targets had arranged for tens of thousands of dollars to be paid to Hastert’s campaign funds in small checks. Under Federal Election Commission rules, donations of less than $200 are not required to be itemized in public filings.

Hastert himself was never heard in the recordings, Edmonds told investigators, and it is possible that the claims of covert payments were hollow boasts. Nevertheless, an examination of Hastert’s federal filings shows that the level of un-itemized payments his campaigns received over many years was relatively high. Between April 1996 and December 2002, un-itemized personal donations to the Hastert for Congress Committee amounted to $483,000. In contrast, un-itemized contributions in the same period to the committee run on behalf of the House majority leader, Tom Delay, Republican of Texas, were only $99,000. An analysis of the filings of four other senior Republicans shows that only one, Clay Shaw of Florida, declared a higher total in un-itemized donations than Hastert over the same period: $552,000. The other three declared far less. Energy and Commerce Committee chairman Joe Barton, of Texas, claimed $265,000; Armed Services Committee chairman Duncan Hunter, of California, got $212,000; and Ways and Means Committee chairman Bill Thomas, of California, recorded $110,000.

Edmonds reportedly added that the recordings also contained repeated references to Hastert’s flip-flop, in the fall of 2000, over an issue which remains of intense concern to the Turkish government – the continuing campaign to have Congress designate the killings of Armenians in Turkey between 1915 and 1923 a genocide. For many years, attempts had been made to get the house to pass a genocide resolution, but they never got anywhere until August 2000, when Hastert, as Speaker, announced that he would give it his backing and see that it received a full house vote. He had a clear political reason, as analysts noted at the time: a California Republican incumbent, locked in a tight congressional race, was looking to win over his district’s large Armenian community. Thanks to Hastert, the resolution, vehemently opposed by the Turks, passed the International Relations Committee by a large majority. Then, on October 19, minutes before the full House vote, Hastert withdrew it.

At the time, he explained his decision by saying that he had received a letter from President Clinton arguing that the genocide resolution, if passed, would harm U.S. interests. Again, the reported content of the Chicago wiretaps may well have been sheer bravado, and there is no evidence that any payment was ever made to Hastert or his campaign. Nevertheless, a senior official at the Turkish Consulate is said to have claimed in one recording that the price for Hastert to withdraw the resolution would have been at least $500,000.

Hastert’s spokesman says the congressman withdrew the genocide resolution only because of the approach from Clinton, “and to insinuate anything else just doesn’t make any sense.” He adds that Hastert has no affiliation with the A.T.C. or other groups reportedly mentioned in the wiretaps: “He does not know these organizations.” Hastert is “unaware of Turkish interests making donations,” the spokesman says, and his staff has “not seen any pattern of donors with foreign names.”

snip//

[mom cat]

18. Link gets to a "page could not be found error". from there, you can

get to the site, but only today's date.

[Nothing Without Hope]

20. ***HERE IS A LINK TO EDMONDS INTERVIEW RE HASTERT & TURKS:***

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/10/1346254
Wednesday, August 10th, 2005

Did Speaker Hastert Accept Turkish Bribes to Deny Armenian Genocide and Approve Weapons Sales?

Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds is accusing the FBI of covering up improper contacts and financial dealings between certain Turkish nationals and the office of House Speaker Dennis Hastert. We speak with Sibel Edmonds and Vanity Fair journalist David Rose.

In addition to the transcript of the Sibel Edmonds interview, there are links for video and audio.

[mom cat]

21. Thanks for the link!

[Al-CIAda]

46. .

[TheGunslinger]

31. Fixed link >>>

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9774.htm

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. Glad someone is trying to get out what she has to say

[hedda_foil]

6. I KNEW it!!

Everything fit too well for Sibel and Valerie's cases not to be closely linked.

[rurallib]

9. Boy when you start connecting dots ...........

- 9/11 happenned why?
- Daddy with the Carlyle group
- Blair joining the Carlyle group
- the interest in and invasion of Iraq
- Valerie Plame
Doesn't look like something that had a master plan but one where having the reins of the government allows you to create diversions and do what you want without a lot of questions. No questions especially from a cowed press corp or a press that acts as cheerleaders.
Doesn't Daddy keep all his money in the Caymans?

[radfringe]

42. all that is missing

is an Abramoff/DeLay connection

wouldn't be surprised to see their fingers in this cookie jar too

Follow the slime...follow the money

[DemReadingDU]

7. K&R

Thanks for sharing!

Edit to add - Hope that someone close to Fitzgerald is reading DU & DKos and passing along this valuable information!

[bronzegirl]

35. If Fitzgerald doesn't know, he will...

I have just mailed him a letter on this. The only way to contact him is at:

Patrick Fitzgerald, Special Counsel
Bond Federal Building
1400 New York Avenue, NW, Ninth Floor
Washington D.C. 20530

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/index.html

[txindy]

40. I hadn't thought of that. Excellent. n/t

[Tuesday_Morning]

8. more info

Here's more clarification of the Sibel/blogger "right track"

http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2006/01/sibelology.html

sibelology
as i mentioned the other day, i got an email from sibel edmonds the other day after she had read some of my posts about her story - basically she wanted to let me know that i was on the right track (and that virtually no-one else is).

(update-you can read about the phone call here)

via the magic of the server logs, as best as i can tell, she read the following posts in forming her opinion:

This post called "sibel and feith and perle?" which also discusses Grossman
This post which is largely about Bolton
This post which has some snippets of the Scott Horton interview
This post about Melek Can Dickerson
This post which is mainly about Charlie Black (and Bolton and Freedman)

more....

[bonito]

10. Kick and recommended

While my head is spinning, but in light of everything unfolding lately, seems to be a good thing, and hopefully not to make us complacent, because I have been under the impression that bush & co. were in controll.

[Arkham House]

11. Surprise, Surprise, Surprise...

[Peace Patriot]

12. "..an effort to sabotage the work of CIA front Brewster Jennings-which...

...was seen as increasingly threatening to them." --from the OP

I don't want to side-track any pursuit of the Edmonds/Turkey angle on Treasongate (not that I could), but I just want to point out that the time-frame for the Plame outing, and how it was done, point to a specific trigger for the outing, and I don't think--and I don't think many others familiar with the facts think--that the publication of Wilson's article (on 7/6/03) was sufficient cause for what the Bushites did next--that is, they called at least SIX reporters, during the week of 7/6-7/14--six journalist witnesses to treason--and performed other actions that put many top Bushites at great risk of treason charges--in what appears to be a panic and a rush to find a patsy newsman to IMMEDIATELY out Plame. Here's the most relevant piece of the time-line:

July 7, 2003: Tony Blair is informed that David Kelly (Brits chief WMD expert) knows something more than what he was whistleblowing about to the BBC (exaggerated pre-war WMD intel on Iraq). (Hutton report.)

July 14, 2003: Plame outed (by Novak).

July 18, 2003: David Kelly found dead, under highly suspicious circumstances; his office and computers searched.

July 22, 2003: The entire CIA counter-proliferation project, Brewster-Jennings, outed (also by Novak), disabling all operations and placing all of its covert agents/contacts at risk of getting killed.


I suspect that the trigger for this series of events was the threat of exposure of a Bushite plot to plant WMDS in Iraq, after the invasion--to be "found" by the US troops who were "hunting" for them (accompanied by Judith Miller)--and that David Kelly is the one who posed the threat of exposure of this deceitful scheme. I think what he may have found out, possibly from his connections in Iraq, is that Plame/BJ were the ones who foiled this Bushite plot. (Or, alternatively, he himself helped foil it, by tipping off Plame/BJ--or some such scenario.)

There are many possibilities for what the Brewster-Jennings network might have been trying to uncover, or to counter (they were a counter-proliferation network--not just non-proliferation), but this one accounts the best for what was happening at the time of the outing--the fruitless "hunt" for WMDs in Iraq--for the risks the Bushites took to disable and endanger Plame/BJ, the haste with which they did it, and the lame cover stories that were put about, and it also accounts for the panic with which the Blairites reacted to Kelly's rather mild whistleblowing statements to the BBC (it freaked them out). (Note: Kelly began whistleblowing in late May 2003. Wilson published his article on July 6, 2003.)

I tend to think that Treasongate (the Plame outing) is the coverup of the WMD-planting plot--or if not that, the coverup of something else quite specific to that time-frame and posing considerable threat of imminent exposure to the Bush junta.

[cally]

13. Wow...great post

Thanks

[The Backlash Cometh]

14. Where are those fuckers going to hide? WHERE?

If the CIA, FBI and any other ASS intelligence agency in the US doesn't go on the offensive against any American involved with the drug trade or arms trade, then they are just as guilty. Yo, Agent Mike, tell your people that we know, the word is out on the street. Time to act like you know what you're doing.

[JerseygirlCT]

15. I wonder if the way to take them down will end up being the money?

Tax evasion?

This makes sense to me.

Damn, I wish she could speak up.

[hootinholler]

16. RICO

What we know now far exceedes the legal requirements.

-Hoot

[JerseygirlCT]

17. Wouldn't that be something?

[mom cat]

19. Very powerful. I have been saying for some time that the Brewster

Jennings connection had to be far more significant than the yellow cake story.Rove could have handled slandering Wilson. No, it had to involve a lot of money and power.Thanks for the post.

[Scout1071]

22. K&R. n/t

[Al-CIAda]

23. K&R'd

[shance]

24. "War is a Racket" by Smedley D. Butler.

Read it.

Pass it on to friends and family.

If Americans read it, it could save our Democracy.

[cascadiance]

51. Yup the corporate coup attempt is about to happen again!

Smedley Butler and Sibel Edmonds rank right up there with the heroes that have (and will have) preserved our nation's democracy! Both are still underappreciated people.

[Dunvegan]

25. Yes...Brewster Jennings is the key...more so than Plame alone.

And WMD are the prize.

Brewster Jennings probably busted the overly confident WMD plant plot twice.

Mainly because the plotters were also the ones that created the circumstances where Iraq was a mess. Not enough US security to get away with a successful escorted mission to plant the WMDs.

RICO indeed.

Clean House...that's Congress and the White House.

Let's get enough of the bad actors out of play via inditements while making sure the House Majority Leader is a Democrat...voila...President Pelosi.

[Hissyspit]

26. It would explain so much.

Why didn't they plant WMD?

It sticks out like a sore thumb. They've done everything else despicable in their self-interest.

[seemslikeadream]

49. And WMD are the prize, so true Dunvegan

:hi:


Dick Cheney exposed Valerie Plame to cover up his association with A.Q. Khan's Nuclear Walmart. Read about it here: http://s93118771.onlinehome.us/DU/AMERICANJUDAS.pdf or http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&top

[rman]

27. "the rabbit hole goes very deep"

indeed it does

[leveymg]

28. K&R, Bookmarked

[cyberpj]

29. Would posting all the Sibel info to this site help any?

http://www.prwatch.org/node/4342

[cascadiance]

53. How about our own whistleblower's newsgroup first...

I've been meaning to have some time to get historical links of all of our threads put into a thread or two on that forum, but haven't found the time to do so. Want to do it right if and when it gets done so that it can ease us all getting to older info for research purposes, etc. If you have some time, feel free to put some stuff there for us to build on.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344

[pberq]

30. Kick! - Recommended

[Vanje]

32. K&R

[BamaBecky]

33. Good Work KOS! Stay on it like a blood hound!

Bama

[Old and In the Way]

34. It's the Republican Syndicate who ordered up the Contract on America

[greiner3]

36. Former

Turkish ambassadors Eric Edelman and Marc Grossman are deeply involved in global arms smuggling, drug-dealing, money-laundering and black market nuclear sales to terrorists.

In other words, just good ole boys out on the town having a good time!

[Independent_Liberal]

37. Watergate, Iran Contra and BCCI all over again!

The Bush Crime Family strikes back!

[faithnotgreed]

38. not letting this drop

[Roland99]

39. Needs to be on the Homepage!

[EndElectoral]

41. Will Edmonds ever be allowed in our free country to reveal what she knows

[shance]

57. No, she will not be allowed. We must demand for it to happen.

It's up to us. To be creative. To get the truth out there and help Sibel be heard.

[No Exit]

43. Many people point to collusion btw the democrat and republican parties

Right?

I'm not saying they're right or wrong. I don't know. (But, reassuringly, we clearly have some democrats who do NOT collude with republicans.)

Using the above as an example, is it too farfetched to think that maybe our "good guys"--our all-Amurican terrorist-fighters, such as Bush/Cheney--are actually colluding with the people they call "terrorists"?

I don't think it's too farfetched.

So next time one feels anxious about "terror", he or she should remember that it is just possible that Bush/Cheney can actually get together with "the enemy" and plan a whole scenario which will then be put out as the latest passion play to fool the masses.

Thanks for posting this article. I went to the site and read every word. I no longer doubt that the outing of Valerie Plame was at least partly about preserving the illegal weapons/nukes trade. I also have no doubt that Cheney (and perhaps Bush as well) makes money off that trade, either directly or indirectly. Just my opinion.

[Imagevision]

44. Amazing Edmonds hasn't committed suicide yet...!

gag-order? they were being kind. Imagine what would happen if all the news media ran her story??!!

[Roland99]

47. Still amazed by that, too.

[Al-CIAda]

45. ,

[peekaloo]

48. kickity

:kick:

[G_j]

50. thanks for posting

this is why we can't give up on this.
There is hope here of pulling strings that will unravel a criminal empire.

[KansDem]

52. Kick!

:dem:

...and recommended

But what do we do now? :shrug:

[ret5hd]

54. .

[progressivebydesign]

55. The truth is always much, much, scarier than we can imagine.

This illustrates my theory perfectly. While people think that the neocons are just sitting around figuring out how to make someone win in Congress, or how to assure an oil contract, it's much more sordid and dark and dirty. and really fucking scary, actually. The real patriots of the Country, and I mean all of us, and most military, republicans, and even conservative media, would have a stroke if they found out what lied beneath the Bush administration... it's too frightening to ponder.

[HeatherDawn]

56. A link re:Sibel Edmonds

http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2005/12/sibel-edmonds-brewster-jennings_28.html

[TheGunslinger]

58. Thanks for the link and welcome to DU, HeatherDawn!!

:hi:

[ngGale]

59. Kick for morning...

:donut: