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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 07:52 PM
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Anyone hear Bush's comment on small business, in Bush's steamrolling
ahead economy speach he made this week.

As a small business owner, George saying we are going to create jobs is extremely offensive considering his policies hurt small businesses. Then going on and declaring we are going to invest and create jobs I give you a big F.O. Mr Bush

Any other small business owners here?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 07:54 PM
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1. Oh, but small businesses are being created daily, and
Americans, the market, and the economy are flourishing! :sarcasm:
He's a lying POS and his speech nauseated me; I had to turn it off.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 07:56 PM
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2. Deregulation guts industries and destroys all the medium sized business.
They all die. Look at al the industries that have been de-regulated in the last 30 years: airlines, food, department stores, etc.

So the mid sized industry dies. All of them Only huge (one or two) and many small business exist in a deregulated market.

That is what George Bush is talking about.

Under-employed people who would have worked in medium sized firms have to go out and start their own business, and get paid much less, to replace the jobs they lost when mid sized industry went caput!
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:02 PM
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5. I somewhat understand his shit philosophy
But if he wants small business to contribute more then he needs to take his hand out of the corporate cookie jar and help out a little.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 06:08 PM
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24. with a national health care plan. No other way to do it!!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 07:58 PM
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3. I wish the REpublican small business owners I know would fess up
to being bent over by the Bush administration ...
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:00 PM
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4. What kind of business do you have?
I'm interested in industry, primarily, not any personal details.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:03 PM
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7. Coffee shop
7 years and running started in 99. Very tough. Started without a cent to my name.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:02 PM
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6. Yes, can't afford to pay myself let alone take on an employee right now.
Small business has been steamrolled in the last decade by the big boys. Guys like Michael Dell had to have the whole pie. Then they swept up the crumbs, boxed them up, and sent them overseas.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:05 PM
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8. Exactly what I'm saying
George needs to give a little if he wants us to give more back.
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:07 PM
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9. Yeah.... fat chance, that ....
I have barely enough business to support myself (self-employed). A while ago, I had hoped to expand and bring in subcontractors, but then all the medical transcription work started to get outsourced to companies that pay med. students in India slave wages to do the work. I lowered my rates by 25% and still, I am finding it difficult to find new business, but when I do, I have to work 25% more hours just to earn what I had been previously. Forget hiring anyone else. I can barely survive, myself.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:21 PM
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12. Less regulation and lower taxes is the idea
Hmm don't count on that soon?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:15 PM
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10. I'm a small business owner ... and I never cease to be flabbegatsed at
other small business owners who vote Republican. I guess they have an overinflated view of their company's place in the world. Those tax cuts and policies the Repubs put out do NOTHING for small businesses. We're on our own .... no net. We can't even get unemployment should the worst happen. We pay for our healthcare with after tax dollars - effectively INCREASING the cost.

I guess the ones who vote Republican see themselves lighting their Cuban cigars with hundred dollar bills ...... the assholes.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:22 PM
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13. Ok embarresinly enough I have to go on food stamps again
until I can pay off some debt. Hope George doesn't cut that as well.
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murphymom Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:49 PM
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14. No net, indeed
My husband and I are self-employed. It hit me the other day when I was paying our health insurance premium (a good preferred provider plan w/prescription coverage) that our premium for the two of us plus our out of pocket expenses for prescriptions costs as much as our frikkin' mortgage - and not to brag, but we live in a fairly upscale home. And we're among the lucky ones - at least we can still afford the insurance, it's more than doubled in the last 5 years.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 12:30 PM
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20. Republicans first started screwing small biz
in the 80s, under Reagan, and they have never let up. Republicans are NOT pro business. They are pro BIG business. Like you I cannot figure out what has blinded the small biz owners who vote Repub. :shrug:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:16 PM
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11. Yeah, riiiight. I'm making 75% less than I was five years ago
No more assistant, no more maids, no more lawn care. :-(.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 08:59 PM
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15. I Was A Business Owner Until Bush Came To Office
I was ready to break even when he stole the first election. After 5 years of hanging on and throwing everything I had into waiting for him to take notice of the ailing economy, I gave up the ghost. George Bush owes me. I intend to collect, too.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:27 PM
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16. This thread sort of says it all.
I am not a small business owner but, do have family in business for themselves.

What I can't figure out is WHY aren't people up in arms! This is insane- especially with the way health care is right now. People with "great benefits" such as myself feel as though we are being taken- and, I don't have any health problems!
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missouri dem 2 Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:24 PM
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17. Have been self employed for 30 years and the best years
were under Clinton. The w* years are by far the worst. We are watching the demise of the self employed middle class. But Haliburton is doing well so everything is just peachy.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 11:26 PM
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18. Wow, Aneyone interrested in a Small Business Group
This was an amazing post for me. It is really comforting to talk to some other business owners who are frustrated.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 11:56 AM
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19. used to be one....hopefully will be again soon
Lost my biz in 2005 thanks to GW's policies and "walmarting" by a huge competitor.

I second the big F.O. to GW.

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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 01:55 PM
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21. To Junior, a "small business" is one that hasn't quite gone international
yet. Or, one that has "only" about 100,000 employees.

It never ceased to amuse me when I would read freeptards' posts trumpeting Shrub's "support of small business", while they clearly thought Shrub was talking about helping their home daycare or crafts business. Bwaahaha...
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 04:26 PM
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22. I own a small business as well
I know that * has never worked as hard as any of us do for so little, that's for sure.

One of the small business lobbying organizations was through the building my shop is located in a couple of weeks ago. The two guys representing them were pretty stunned when I asked them first why their organization sent out an expensive color brochure touting * during election time, then I asked them how much of their financing came from the GOP yearly. I was polite, but adamant.

Republicans don't represent me. They never have, and they never will.

Julie
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 05:13 PM
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23. It reminds me of The Oregon Restaurant Association and that other
major business lobbying firm (forgot the name). They once came in with their nice suits and expensive haitcuts and flashing smiles. At one point he suggested we agreed philosophically. I told him no, I think we disagree on quite a bit which sent him packing.
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