Terrorit training camps. Adm. to put out documents says Weekly Stand-

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ard reporter on Fox news. He was upset (2 times)--saying the administration should have put these out before.

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1. saying about 2000 terrorists trained in Irag. They have list of names,

graduations (non Iragians), etc etc.

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2. I do not know what to think of this. Fox news just did a segment on this.

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3. said these documents are part of over a million that have been found

in Irag since the war.

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4. has anyone heard these documents?

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5. or planted since the war?

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6. No one is falling for this shit. FOX should just give it up before

someone proves these docs are more like Niger forgeries.

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7. Here is the article. "Saddam's Terror Training Camps"

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/550kmbzd.asp

Saddam's Terror Training Camps

What the documents captured from the former Iraqi regime reveal--and why they should all be made public.
by Stephen F. Hayes
01/16/2006, Volume 011, Issue 17



THE FORMER IRAQI REGIME OF Saddam Hussein trained thousands of radical Islamic terrorists from the region at camps in Iraq over the four years immediately preceding the U.S. invasion, according to documents and photographs recovered by the U.S. military in postwar Iraq. The existence and character of these documents has been confirmed to THE WEEKLY STANDARD by eleven U.S. government officials.

The secret training took place primarily at three camps--in Samarra, Ramadi, and Salman Pak--and was directed by elite Iraqi military units. Interviews by U.S. government interrogators with Iraqi regime officials and military leaders corroborate the documentary evidence. Many of the fighters were drawn from terrorist groups in northern Africa with close ties to al Qaeda, chief among them Algeria's GSPC and the Sudanese Islamic Army. Some 2,000 terrorists were trained at these Iraqi camps each year from 1999 to 2002, putting the total number at or above 8,000. Intelligence officials believe that some of these terrorists returned to Iraq and are responsible for attacks against Americans and Iraqis. According to three officials with knowledge of the intelligence on Iraqi training camps, White House and National Security Council officials were briefed on these findings in May 2005; senior Defense Department officials subsequently received the same briefing.

The photographs and documents on Iraqi training camps come from a collection of some 2 million "exploitable items" captured in postwar Iraq and Afghanistan. They include handwritten notes, typed documents, audiotapes, videotapes, compact discs, floppy discs, and computer hard drives. Taken together, this collection could give U.S.intelligence officials and policymakers an inside look at the activities of the former Iraqi regime in the months and years before the Iraq war.

The discovery of the information on jihadist training camps in Iraq would seem to have two major consequences: It exposes the flawed assumptions of the experts and U.S. intelligence officials who told us for years that a secularist like Saddam Hussein would never work with Islamic radicals, any more than such jihadists would work with an infidel like the Iraqi dictator. It also reminds us that valuable information remains buried in the mountain of documents recovered in Afghanistan and Iraq over the past four years.

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8. Its the cover story.

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11. Stephen Hayes again

you can get his last blockbuster for $2.50

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/0060746734/ref=sib_rdr_mktpl//103-0964058-2760630?condition=all

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10. seems I heard of this story--but these camps were in the part

in the NO FLY ZONE. I am not sure if there is anything new here except that the reporter said the WH was going to release them.

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9. Trained in North Iraq's no-fly zone where Saddam had no control?

I know it won't matter to the press or the public, but it makes a difference to me.

edit: Nevermind, they're in Ramadi and elsewhere under Saddam's auspices. Well, then the easy counterargument is that we ourselves trained the Afghani Mujahadeen that became the nucleus of Al Qaeda ourselves to fight the Soviets, and that "friendly" ME countries do the exact same thing. It still isn't the justification they want it to be.

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12. article says it exposes the myth that SH would work with Islamic radicals.

The discovery of the information on jihadist training camps in Iraq would seem to have two major consequences: It exposes the flawed assumptions of the experts and U.S. intelligence officials who told us for years that a secularist like Saddam Hussein would never work with Islamic radicals, any more than such jihadists would work with an infidel like the Iraqi dictator. It also reminds us that valuable information remains buried in the mountain of documents recovered in Afghanistan and Iraq over the past four years.

"Glory Days"

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13. DiRita, says the" mainstream press might cherry-pick documents (yup)

On January 6, however, Hoekstra finally heard from Negroponte. The director of national intelligence told Hoekstra that he is committed to expediting the exploitation and release of the Iraqi documents. According to Hoekstra, Negroponte said: "I'm giving this as much attention as anything else on my plate to make this work."

Other members of Congress--including Rep. Dana Rohrabacher and Senators Rick Santorum and Pat Roberts--also demanded more information from the Bush administration on the status of the vast document collection. Santorum and Hoekstra have raised the issue personally with President Bush. This external pressure triggered an internal debate at the highest levels of the administration. Following several weeks of debate, a consensus has emerged: The vast majority of the 2 million captured documents should be released publicly as soon as possible.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has convened several meetings in recent weeks to discuss the Pentagon's role in expediting the release of this information. According to several sources familiar with his thinking, Rumsfeld is pushing aggressively for a massive dump of the captured documents. "He has a sense that public vetting of this information is likely to be as good an astringent as any other process we could develop," says Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita.

The main worry, says DiRita, is that the mainstream press might cherry-pick documents and mischaracterize their meaning. "There is always the concern that people would be chasing a lot of information good or bad, and when the Times or the Post splashes a headline about some sensational-sounding document that would seem to 'prove' that sanctions were working, or that Saddam was just a misunderstood patriot, or some other nonsense, we'd spend a lot of time chasing around after it."

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14. Roberts and Santy man want these docs released.

Other members of Congress--including Rep. Dana Rohrabacher and Senators Rick Santorum and Pat Roberts--also demanded more information from the Bush administration on the status of the vast document collection. Santorum and Hoekstra have raised the issue personally with President Bush. This external pressure triggered an internal debate at the highest levels of the administration. Following several weeks of debate, a consensus has emerged: The vast majority of the 2 million captured documents should be released publicly as soon as possible.

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15. I am afraid that the WH will cherry-pick what is released.

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17. Ain't true. No such "camps" existed.

Don't fall for Haye's bullshit. He's tried this same story on for 4 years now. The US military already called bullshit on it.

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16. DEBUNKED BULLSHIT.

The US military long ago admitted there were NO "TERRORIST TRAINING CAMPS" in Iraq.

NONE.

Even the "terrorist training camp" in Northern Kurdistan...OUT of Hussein's control since 1991 and IN AMWERICA'S CONTROL since 1991...the SAME "training camp" BUSH REFUSED THREE TIMES to allow the military to bomb...the US military found...NOTHING WHATSOEVER.

Hayes is a rightwingnut neocon insane asshole with no credibility whatsoever.