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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:33 AM
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Abramoff and Lay: Two Bush "Pioneer" Level Contributors
Hey, that's two, count'em, two of Bush's top level "Pioneer" contributors now at the center of world class corruption and fraud scandals. I have an idea. Let's just investigate all Bush's Pioneers under RICO.

http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_search.cfm

And the obvious question: What would the Republicans have done if even one of these guys were big Clinton supporters?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:49 AM
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1. I went there and put the last one on the list into google
along with Jack Abramoff..George C. Zoley + Jack Abramoff.

The first two entries that came up gave me error pages when I clicked on them. Here are the urls.

<http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/people/>

<http://southflorida.bizjournals.com/southflorida/dailyedition.html>
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:52 AM
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2. My (maybe no so weird) tinfoil Enron theory.
For years, I've speculated that Enron was little more than a Bush Crime Family money laundering scheme. Enron didn't do anything except push money around and use that money to get BushCo into office.

Once BushCo stole the White House, presto... Enron was no longer needed. Some people had to fall to provide the 'good legal system' cover.

Same thing with Abramoff. Noticing patterns does not mean 'conspiracy theory.'
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:52 AM
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3. They both deserve the death penalty
I support the death penalty--by hanging--for white collar corporate crime.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:56 AM
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4. Here's one who looks like he's dirty.
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 01:01 AM by shraby
Frederick S. Zeidman
Occupation: Director of Governmental Affairs
Employer: Greenberg Traurig
Home: Houston, TX

<http://www.tpj.org/docs/pioneers/pioneers_view.jsp?id=773>

Tried another one
Kenneth B. Zangara

He's no angel either.

<http://www.tpj.org/docs/pioneers/pioneers_view.jsp?id=213>
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:00 AM
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5. I'll bet there are a bunch.
I was kind of kidding when I said they should be investigated under RICO, but maybe it would be worthwhile. I like your idea of looking for connections between Abramoff and other Pioneers.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:03 AM
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6. The Fact Is, Mr. Gulliver
Every person who contributed at that level is a crook; the rest just have not bee caught out openly yet....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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