Am I the only one who doesn't believe the Cheney story?

[CTyankee]

They are saying his shortness of breath was caused by a medication he was taking for his foot ailment. I just don't buy it, but maybe I'm crazy. He looks weak and terrible. I think the guy is on his way out and they are spinning this whole thing.

The guy had to sit for his VP debate with John Edwards in 04 since he just can't stand for very long at all. Something about their explanation just doesn't sound "right."

[sweetm2475]

1. randi rhodes thinks he has about 8 spares for every body part..

cryogenically frozen, you know just in case.:evilgrin:

[Divernan]

11. Searching OUR medical records for exact donor match for new heart?

Yes, someone with an exact match is just an "accidental" slip and fall away from donating their heart. Sounds like a Stephen King or Robin Cook novel, but hey, he would have access to everyone's confidential medical records and it's necessary for the War on Terror that sacrifices be made to keep our irreplaceable VP alive to keep promoting Halliburton's best interests. It's taken 5 + years but Bush has finally driven me to don the tinfoil hat.

[sweetm2475]

17. sad thing about that is...

it's completely believable. Well at least to me. I wear my tinfoil with pride. Not conspiracy theories, just coincidence theories.:tinfoilhat:

[Vickers]

24. "coincidence theories"

:rofl:

I needed a better name for that phenomenon! :thumbsup:

[kcass1954]

29. Entirely believable - Read "Heart Seizure" by Bill Fitzhugh.

Hilarious - and dead on with what's going on in DC these days.

[arbusto_baboso]

2. It's CHF, like I posted on another thread...

That's Congestive Heart Failure, for those of you unfamiliar with medical lingo.

Part of the story about Cheney mentioned something about him currently taking Lasix (a diuretic) because of fluid retention caused by anti-inflammatories he's been taking for a bad foot.

It doesn't tally. Look at some of his recent pics, and how puffy he appears. It's CHF. But, just like Pravda, the press won't pursue the obvious: that one of the Politburo top officials is on his way out. Probably feet first.

[liberalnurse]

9. Well, prednisone will cause edema.....

We just don't have enough honest medical data to fairly speculate. We do know his circulatory system is slowly shutting down. Is he also diabetic? I suspect so.....

[StClone]

10. My wife and I both blurted

"Heart failure" when edema was mentioned. Cheney is starting the slide into old age as a heart patient on extreme terms with his organ.

[CTyankee]

14. So he'll just topple over?

I had a cousin that did that. Dead before he hit the floor. If this is Cheney's fate, you'd think the WH would want to ease him out the door now and send out their talking points to ease in whoever to take his place. You'd think they wouldn't want him to blam someplace without a scenario in place!

[Psychmd]

15. Half truths

Edema or swelling in his lower extremities is treated with lasix. Edema in the lower extremities can be a consequence of congestive heart failure(CHF). With Cheney's cardiac history, this is the most likely cause. Congestive heart failure is common after heart attacks. CHF can be a chronic progressive disease. It doesn't mean he is at death's door.

[arbusto_baboso]

19. Very true, however....

He's deteriorated NOTICEABLY just over the past year or so. I think his CHF is pretty far advanced.

[Eurobabe]

18. He's the Potemkin VP

he's not even real.

It's what my grandmother died from last Aug., although she was older and did not have the heart issues. She was on Lasik, etc. Electrolyte imbalance undid her in the end (sodium out of whack) ChainKnee's number is about up, I say he succumbs to CHF by May.

[SheilaT]

21. It's also quite amazing how long

someone with congestive heart failure can live. My mother-in-law had it by the time she was 70, and lived to 94. Granted, she wasn't running the country during any of that time, and by the time she was 80 she couldn't walk far without needing to rest. But still, she lived for a quarter century in that condition.

My point being, don't start planning the funeral any time soon.

[punpirate]

23. Let's put it this way...

... after all the damned trouble he's caused this country, if he's going out feet first, the least he can do is try to make up for what he's done and stroke out in the middle of Meet the Press on Sunday morning. About a hundred million people in this country would be saying, "didja see that? About damned time--did you have the VCR runnin'?" :)

[sofa king]

32. We'll know he's bought it when Fox News shuts off...

...And starts playing patriotic music against a blank screen. That's how the Politburo used to prepare their adoring public for the bad news.

[Tace]

3. I Don't Believe Anything The Government Says

I am skeptical to the point of cynicism. Especially with this gang, the truth is usually the exact opposite of what they say.

[tulsakatz]

6. that's true..........

.......I rarely believe anything from these guys!! Whenever they say something, I also tend to believe the opposite is true.

[slampoet]

22. WHADAYAMEAN tend to believe?

Just wait 8 months and EVERYthing that these guys save ends up PROVEN to be false.


Has there been A SINGLE thing they were right about? Not really.

Tin foil has a MUCHO better batting average.

[tulsakatz]

30. I usually don't speak in absolutes..........

.......even related to Bush & Co because there are exceptions to every rule.

So that's what I meant.........

[soothsayer]

4. sure hope his condition isn't painful. and terminal.

[Neil Lisst]

5. They want to dump him while they're UP.

I think.

I agree. I never believe their cover stories and I do believe they almost always lie about things of this nature.

[Lerkfish]

7. its possible: cardiac patients can have bad drug interactions with new

meds conflicting with existing meds.

That having been said, I don't believe ANYTHING this administration tells me, just as a given, so you could be right.

[JuniperLea]

8. Doesn't seem right to me, either

Why give a man with chronic heart problems a drug that could cause water retention? Water retention around the heart is called congestive heart failure and it causes shortness of breath... I went through this for years and years with my grandmother...

[Benhurst]

12. No. And our "free press" has just about reached the point where

Cheney's death won't be announced immediately. The boob tube will just go blank, and they will play doleful music for a day or so to prepare us for the shock.

[w13rd0]

13. Cheney strikes me...

...as the kind of man who would have no moral qualms about torturing, raping, then killing children and kittens if he thought it would extend his life for a day.

[gratuitous]

20. Unicorn blood is darned hard to come by

Some of you may be horribly maimed to keep Unka Dick alive. Some of you may even die a gruesome and painful death just to sustain his life for another five minutes. But that's a risk he's willing to take.

[displacedtexan]

16. Cheney has several personal hospitals: home, AF 2, etc.

This guy has his own medical staff, 24/7, too.
A simple drug reaction wouldn't necessitate
at 3 am trip to a hospital.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

27. As a retired nurse, that's the best answer I've heard so far.

They probably did some bloodwork on him at home (I'm sure he's rich and powerful enough to have a lab on site, considering his cardiac history) and found it to be dangerously out of whack. Enough to cause him to make the trip to the hospital.

[dusmcj]

25. maybe they're all developing anxiety disorders

the heat from their burning pants is getting hard to ignore.

When all the oil goys are on mood elevators, PNAC's takeover will be complete and its hand-selected apparatchiks will take care of business.

[KalicoKitty]

26. Sounds like congestive heart failure to me!

:kick:

[JuniperLea]

28. I think so too!

Water retention that causes shortness of breath in a heart patient=congestive heart failure.

[w8liftinglady]

31. Ok,if he has gout,and is on allopurinol-it could happen

-snip-
(side effects)
Black, tarry stools; bleeding sores on lips; blood in urine or stools; chills, fever, muscle aches or pains, nausea, or vomiting—especially if occurring with or shortly after a skin rash; difficult or painful urination; pinpoint red spots on skin; redness, tenderness, burning, or peeling of skin; red and/or irritated eyes; red, thickened, or scaly skin; shortness of breath, troubled breathing, tightness in chest, or wheezing; sores, ulcers, or white spots in mouth or on lips; sore throat and fever; sudden decrease in amount of urine; swelling in upper abdominal (stomach) area; swelling of face, fingers, feet, or lower legs ; swollen and/or painful glands; unusual bleeding or bruising; unusual tiredness or weakness; weight gain (rapid); yellow eyes or skin

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202021.html


Thankfully,they spared us any details about his stools.-and,yes-he looks like crap.

[Ino]

33. They would want him to die while in office

That way they can have a state of emergency, sympathy from all over the world, lots of broadcast time, big funeral, eulogies, blah blah. So much more effective than if he dies quietly at home AFTER he's been replaced.