Will the Dems unify & filibuster Alito?

[gulfcoastliberal]

Ok, this is it. The replacement for the "moderate" Sandra Day O'Conner (who did vote in favor of the 2000 coup).

The "powder" is bone dry. The minority party in the Senate has procedures, such as the filibuster, to stop tyranny by the party in power. Now is the time to stand united. Now is the time for Harry Reid to prove himslef a true leader. Alito must not pass. The consequences of his confirmation would likely cause irreperable harm to our nation for decades.

(Spelling edit) + Edit to "Will"

[Guaranteed]

1. Should or will? nt

[gulfcoastliberal]

2. Edited. We all know they should - freudian slip.

[Guaranteed]

4. Well...in that case....

I dunno. :)

We'll just have to see.

I can say that I have a really bad feeling about what will happen if they don't, though.

[Pirate Smile]

3. My question - we filibuster, they go nuclear, I don't think any of the

Repubs in the gang of 14 will stick with us, they change the rules and we lose because only 50 Repub votes would be needed for them to approve Alito for the Supreme Court?

Even if we filibuster, will we keep him off the court?

I haven't had as much access to the computer lately (lap top is sick) so I haven't seen anything on this specific issue.


Is there any reason to think a filibuster will actually keep him off the court?

[Guaranteed]

5. Then we shut it all down.

We're talking the Supreme Court.

[Pirate Smile]

8. OK - so we use the procedural devices left to make the Senate come to a

crawl.

Will that stop Alito or is he going to end up on there no matter what?

I'm just asking because I'm wondering if I'm missing something.

I agree about what a complete disaster he would be on the Supreme Court. My question is - do we actually have a way to stop it from happening?

We have to have 50 (51) votes to stop them from changing the rule so that filibusters can't be used on Judges. Is there any way we will have 50 votes. I saw somewhere today that Chafee has said he is undecided. Any others?

I'm looking at this practically right now.

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9. It won't stop Alito, but it will stop our government.

They break Senate tradition in a power grab, we throw in the wrench. That's it.

[Pirate Smile]

10. OK. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.

I wasn't.

Sh@#!

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13. Yes. It's truly nuclear. nt

[tritsofme]

15. If the execution of the nuclear option is succesful, he can't be stopped.

The "shutting down" of the Senate is a proposed reaction to the nuclear option.

Graham, DeWine, and Warner who are all "Gang of 14" members have said they would go nuclear if they didn't agree a filibuster was an "extraordinary circumstance"

[gulfcoastliberal]

6. Plus the repukes lose filibuster power, too.

What goes around comes around. And as BGL notes, we can use parliamentary procedures to halt senate business. Now is the time for the dems to act like an opposition party, not the slightly kinder corrupt party. This is a defining moment.

[tritsofme]

7. I think there will be 60-65 votes for confirmation, filibuster? No.

My count has

Baucus
Byrd
Conrad
Dorgan
Johnson
Landrieu
Lieberman
Lincoln
Nelson
Nelson
Pryor

As likely votes for confirmation, along with all 55 Republicans.

Lets hope they prove me wrong.

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14. If Byrd does that, you realize that he's gonna have to go, right?

Voted out, I mean.

This is even bigger than the Iraq War. Much bigger, actually.

[tritsofme]

16. Go? In favor of a Republican?

Sounds like a great plan.

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17. Could I find a better example of why it wouldn't make a difference,

and in fact would be quite worth the "risk," even assuming that we DIDN'T have PRIMARIES in our party, which is what you're doing?

[tritsofme]

21. Byrd has done great things for this country

And assuming he votes to confirm Alito, which by all means is not a given, it will be because he respects the right of the POTUS to put forward nominees, and have them confirmed if they are qualified.

Byrd is an institution in WV, he'll be in the Senate until he decides to leave, or God does for him.

[Guaranteed]

22. Byrd will be FUCKING our country IN THE ASS if he doesn't

support a filibuster.

[Hardrada]

19. Not Clinton?

[tritsofme]

23. She didn't vote for Roberts

so I would find it highly unlikely that she would vote for Alito.

[Hardrada]

24. OK. Never mind.

[Mr Rabble]

11. This will be yet another disappointment Im afraid.

We will not only not see a filibuster, there will be nary a peep from our side.

[Ladyhawk]

12. I'm beginning to think the Dem Party is really just a dog and pony show.

They are there for show, nothing more. How many of them are in on it? :shrug: :tinfoilhat: Even if that's not true, they certainly aren't representing the interests of us little people. We are so fucked. :(

[gulfcoastliberal]

20. Cynical but reality-based, Ladyhawk.

I agree with your premise. Something huge and possibly unprecedented must occur to restore power to the people.

[unkachuck]

18. Dems will unify, but NEXT TIME....

....and we'll show those fascist-loving repugs just who they're messing with, NEXT TIME....they had better watch out because we're going to get seriously mad and fight, NEXT TIME....

....and come November, if they're still lieing and saying bad things about us and they win, that'll be the final straw, because we're going to get very very very mad and fight even harder, NEXT TIME....

[radio4progressives]

25. Are we supposed to PREDICT what is going to happen?

are you kidding me? what the hell is the point in that?

The poll should read what the Dems SHOULD BE doing.

please make new poll... and I'll participate..

[gulfcoastliberal]

27. Poll was origianlly titled "Should" the dems filibuster but BGL sugested

changing it to "Will the dems filibuster"?

We true liberals know they should put an end to the rehtuglican destruction of our coutry.

Please participate radio4progressives.

I do enjoy your posts, espeially that thread on Clinton and your debate with the DLCer (and his refusal to answer whether Bushco is destroying the constitution).

[longship]

26. Here are FAX numbers.

U.S. Senate FAX Numbers

Have at it, people. Let them know how you feel.

[TheBaldyMan]

28. minority filibuster is a cert

There must be one good man or woman in congress

[sundancekid]

29. not a chance in hell ... Feinstein just said so (in different words) on

Face the Nation today (sunday, the 14th)

alas ... hell, meet hand basket