Can anyone name ONE thing we got right in this war ?

[Christa]

It seems like one mistake after the other :shrug:

[Warren Stupidity]

1. We got control of the Iraqi oil fields.

From the perspective of the criminals occupying the white house, that was their primary objective and it has been achieved.

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[Warren Stupidity]

7. Oh it must be wrong-turn saturday.

Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.

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11. I'm placing my bet at under 12 posts

[Lerkfish]

15. I give it 15, given its a saturday

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28. I won.

[Lerkfish]

29. kudos!

but it did take a while.

:)

you win.

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9. It took them years to plan 9/11. And imagine the contacts they

had to make along the way to facilitate the process. No surprise it happened during the oily Bush Administration which seems to thrive in grease.

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16. That was secured when we went into Afghanistan.

Iraq was overreach. The likelihood of 9/11 happening again increased when we created a recruiting opportunity for Al Qaeda by invading Iraq without provocation.

Here's a riddle for you:

How many of the 3 billion Muslims in the world will stand idly by as a country of 300 million pursues an unprovoked war against a country of 26 million mostly Muslim people?

Bonus points if you address the problem of how many of the 300,000,000 are actually Muslim and how many of the 300,000,000 support the war, and of those who support the war, will actually enlist to fight in it.

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24. "A realistic chance of winning"

Here are more riddles for you:

How many suicide bombers will it take before you realize that too many don't care to stick around for the end game?

And... if we're losing 2,000 soldiers to their 15,000 civilians, how many Americans would die if a few tens of millions of Muslims decided to put up a fight against us?

We wouldn't really have to die by bullets since our entire public infra-structure would collapse with the appearance of one lethal airborne virus.

Is that a future worth risking?

[Lerkfish]

17. oh, but Madrid and London get bombed...

nearly 2,500 american servicemen and women dead, and 80,000 maimed and wounded, over 100,000 innnocent iraqi citizens killed for nothing...


oh well, shoots you theory to hell, don't it?

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[Warren Stupidity]

21. No you implied a cause and effect relation

That, my friend, is a theory and it is entirely lacking in facts to back it up. Perhaps you would like to expand on your theory here, explaining exactly how our unprovoked attack on Iraq has prevented another 9-11 scale attack inside the US?

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26. If Iraq was behind 9/11, they would have been prepared for the

second wave of a military strike. Don't you think it's absurd that a recognized soverign nation would just hit and run like that without having a contingency plan?

Not a chance that Iraq was behind 9/11. Not a chance. Sadaam Hussein was not ready for us because he didn't have advanced warning about 9/11. He wasn't in on the plans.

9/11 is exactly what a small, but organized band of men would pull off. Though, it's getting more and more difficult to believe that the Bush Administration didn't see it coming.

[Faygo Kid]

23. Thank you for a new bookmark.

Not only do I agree with you, I really appreciate your posting the Downing Street Memo site. I wasn't aware of it. Many thanks.

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25. Your fact is overreaching.

We detained Al Qaeda,for the moment, when we attacked Afghanistan. We created more problems for ourselves down the future when we attacked Iraq, a country which never intended to put up a fight...until now.

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2. Multi-national oil companies with strong ties to conservative US

politicians managed a hostile take-over of oil contracts with Iraqi oil firms; boxing out the Russians and the French who had spent years working for them diplomatically.

And as an extra bonus, no oil company executive was harmed in this manuever.

[NI4NI]

4. Millions of anti-war marchers and

peace loving human beings all over the world got it right in predicting senseless death and destruction before this whole damn war got started; Other than that, not one freakin' thing!

[Faygo Kid]

5. More transfer of the nation's wealth to Halliburton, et al.

Also, the poor and middle class fight the war with zero contributions from Bush's base. Those two have come off as no doubt planned from the beginning.

[JackintheGreen]

6. To be fair...

Saddam Hussein WAS the leader of Iraq, just like we were told.

[FogerRox]

12. JackintheGreen good point--- LOL

And I would like to add, in the summer, in Iraq, the desert is hot.

[mike_c]

10. pleas please please read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man..."

...by John Perkins. The invasion and occupation of Iraq has been an enormous success by several measures. For example, literally hundreds of billions of dollars have been funneled into U.S. major engineering firms, oil companies, and the Pentagon. The occupation keeps a lock on one of the most strategic countries in the ME. Nevermind that this is all evil as can be-- truthfully, the only real failures of the Iraq war have been little more than public relations matters, at least from the perspectives of the folks who are its driving forces. If the war brings down the Bush presidency it will STILL be a stunning success.

The only way out of this going to be a very fundamental shakeup of the American social and political order. Frankly, I don't see that happening very soon.

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14. When do we get our cut?

[jonnyblitz]

19. interesting post.

and thanks for reminding me I need to read that book. i knew that already but forgot.

[welshTerrier2]

27. the "Economic Hit Man" has killed again ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=41161

also read: "The Sorrows of Empire" by Chalmers Johnson ... here's a taste: http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/global/cj_int/cj_int1.html

[mike_c]

30. yep-- that was the thread that reminded me to read the book...

...and I'm still reeling. Suddenly, things like the war against Iraq don't look like such an abyssmal failure after all, at least not in that context. The corporatocracy will come out on top in the end, and the empire will benefit. It's amazing, too, how many of the same old players are still in the game.

Thanks for the tip-- I just ordered "The Sorrows of Empire."

[welshTerrier2]

32. you're going to be dangerous!!

"Confessions" was intense ... it was told through the author's eyes in the first person ... the book combined a devastating history lesson of exactly what Perkins' was recruited to do ... very powerful and informative ... at times though, i thought his "spy novel" feel to the book weakened the case he made ... not a major criticism ... it seemed to me he hoped to have the book made into a movie ...

"Sorrows", on the other hand, is a fairly serious scholarly work ... each page is more powerful than the one that preceded it ... it's a massive undertaking and does a masterful job showing you a critically important "other view" of US history ...

the two together make a devastating one-two punch ... read them both in sequence and you're going to be dangerous ...

btw, i haven't read Johnson's "Blowback" which is also supposed to be excellent ... maybe i'll have to add that one to the queue ...

[IndianaGreen]

13. We succeeded in neutralizing the US military!

By having our troops stuck in the quagmire of Iraq, the Bush dictatorship no longer has the troops to attack other countries such as Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba, etc.

Millions are alive today in Latin America because we are dying in Iraq.

[leesa]

31. It SHOULD have gone wrong. It was illegal and immoral.

[otohara]

37. Yep, No Good Comes From What They Did

it was so fucking predictable.

[DainBramaged]

33. YES I can pick me pick me pick me

How to break the law and get away with it. In more ways than one. And if you want to add Grand Theft too, I'm ok with that.

[Toots]

34. Which War are you talking about

The "War on Drugs" or the "War on Poverty" or the "War on illegal immigration" or the "War on Christmas" or the "War on ?????" Maybe the "War on Iraqi Civilians"???

[0007]

35. Had no trouble finding the museums to loot and Saddam's

best hiding place for 100% protection. (Green zone)

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[leftofthedial]

38. massively increased and perpetual chaos

rationale for a never-ending "war" on "terror"

a base (al qaeda, in Arabic) from which to threaten or launch attacks on Iran or Syria or whoever

HUGE windfall profits for Halliburton, the Carlyle Group and the military industrial complex

Further crippling deficits that will weaken the federal government for generations and cripple our ability to build a better country

a wedge issue to further divide the electorate

mission accomplished

things are going exactly as planned