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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:10 AM
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Our Litmus Test: Tell Them FILIBUSTER Alito Or Get Out Of OUR Congress
NEW ACTION PAGE TO FILIBUSTER ALITO: http://www.nocrony.com

CALL YOUR SENATORS RIGHT NOW at 888-818-6641, 888-355-3588 or 800-426-8073

When they surrendered on the original filibuster confrontation without a fight
they told us they were "saving our ammunition." Strike one.

When they waved Roberts through without demanding access to any of his records
for the last 20 years they told us they were "keeping our powder dry." Strike
two.

Don't DARE try to tell us that now rubberstamping the most radical jurist on the
appellate bench is yet more "picking our battles."

A number of senators in the last couple days have made statements to the effect
they did not hear anything at Alito's confirmation hearing that would make them
vote against him. Of course not, because he did not actually say ANYTHING!

Alito is on the record stating that he believes in a dictatorial model of the
president and that a woman's private decisions are up for grabs. He lied about
his position on the former and categorically refused to repudiate the latter.
Robert Bork himself stated the other day he believes conclusively that Alito
still holds that view. THAT is the evidence to filibuster Alito, not what he
might have evaded saying at his hearing.

This is our litmus test. If our senators will not protect us from this
constitutional outrage, we call for each and every one to be defeated in their
next election. We call for candidates to arise in their own primaries if
necessary to punish them for their cowardice and their complicity. If putting
their own job on the line is not a circumstance "extraordinary" enough for them
we don't know what is.

Alito has been called a "walking constitutional amendment." Let our senators
clearly understand that for them he represents a walking pink slip. And don't
think because you are not up for re-election in 2006 that we will not remember.
If you blow this one you will come to find out what a "done deal" really is.
Nothing you can do in the future will redeem you. We the people can do better.

CALLING ALL POTENTIAL PRIMARY AND GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATES

If you live in a state where your senator has expressed support or indifference
on the Alito nomination we need you to immediately contact us about mounting a
primary or general election challenge with yourself or someone else you know as
the candidate. Be ye not concerned where you will get the money to run. We will
provide you with the tools to run a campaign with no money and win. All you need
is the courage to want to represent your fellow constitutents and do what they
want their senators to do . . . for a change.

Did you catch Alito's snaky answer when asked if he thought Roe v. Wade was well
settled? He said it depended on what you meant by "well settled." And they
ridiculed Clinton for quibbling about the meaning of the word "is". When he says
stare decisis is not an inexorable command, what he really means is Katie bar
the door to the Supreme Court.

He doesn't always rule against the "little guy" he said at this hearing. And he
gave as his primary example the machine gun case. Oh swell . . . if you are a
little guy with a machine gun you can get a fair shake in judge Alito's
courtroom.

On issue after issue he refused to comment, on the grounds that it might come
before him. MIGHT come before him? Of course these issues will come before him.
That's the whole plan, to systematically revisit every one of these decisions
and roll them back one century at a time. The members of the Federalist society
have been plotting this judicial coup since their mentor Bork was rejected for
admitting his extremism. Since then they have been packing the courts with true
believers who refuse to disclose their agendas, accelerated by the Bush neocon
cabal. And Alito is the last piece of the puzzle they need to fall into place,
WITHOUT WHICH THEY CANNOT PROCEED.

That is why it is so critical. That is why you must speak out again now. That is
why you must submit this action page now.

http://www.nocrony.com

That is why you must ignore even now the voices on our own side who have been
conned into parroting the right wing line that this is a foregone conclusion.
Our senators did not have the burden of proof to stop Alito. It was his burden
of proof to earn the position with straight forward and honest answers to the
American people about what he stood for. The Federalist society knows EXACTLY
what he stands for. They dropkicked Miers because they weren't 100% sure about
her. It is the American people they are so desperately trying to keep in the
dark.

This one is a ringer. You don't run with the wolf pack for so many decades
without being a wolf. But they could not nominate a wolf without outfitting him
with the sheep's clothing of "I'd have to carefully examine the facts of the
case." They played up a weepy wife to trivialize the monumental danger this man
represents as the fifth and deciding vote to overturn absolutely everything we
ever cared about. And his supporters admit it even if he will not. Yeah, sure
they say, that's what they want, to roll to clock back to the mid-thirties for
starters and work backwards from there.

One of the most pathetic reasons we've ever heard for inaction is that they'll
just nominate somebody as bad if Alito is rejected. What kind of defeatism is
that? C'mon folks, snap out of it. No, not only are we going to turn thumbs down
on Alito, but the next one, and the next one, until we get a true moderate at
the very worse. That is what the American people deserve, if only you will
demand it by calling your senators right now at one of the toll free numbers.
There are three we know of, 888-818-6641, 888-355-3588, 800-426-8073.

Tell them if they do not filibuster Alito their own jobs are in jeopardy. Those
who will not exercise the power they have will have whatever power they do have
taken away from them. The OTHER side will do that if we do not do it first. Hold
a press conference and declare your opposition and willingness to run in the
primary of any state where such a senator dwells. You won't have to worry about
raising money. You will be drafted so fast it will make your head spin.

Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed to be
ours, and forward this message to everyone else you know.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:18 AM
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1. They know their jobs aren't in jeopardy
They know we don't have the numbers. And the Senators that would like to filibuster know they don't have the numbers in the Senate. They did a damn lousy job of making the case to the American people during the hearings. Contacting them with threats will do precisely nothing towards facilitating a filibuster.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:22 AM
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2. They can show they care enough to put up a fight.
And we can let them know that we expect them to; AND that we vote!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:29 AM
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4. With a GOP Congress they don't have the numbers to do it
But do they also not have self-respect? Why are they such wimps. They should vote against anything unethical, immoral, criminal that the GOP try to put thru! Alito is one of those things. I want all libs to grow balls, for goodness sakes!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:44 AM
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10. Voting against Alito
is one thing. Filibustering in a situation where they didn't make a good enough case, don't have the backing of a majority of the American people, and may actually endanger dem Senators from red states, is another. We need to win back the Senate. Filibustering won't help.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:48 AM
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12. Good point. Everyone should read what you explained.
With how savage the GOP is, and how willing they are to use marketing agencies to lie about libs, you're right that we might all end up crucified.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:50 AM
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13. Vichy Democrats!
They sound just like the Germans that refused to see how truly dangerous Hitler was, and like those appeasers and collaborators in tyranny.

The moment you let the other side determine how you are going to react, you already lost!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:04 PM
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15. Aside from your hyperventilating
that comparison just doesn't hold water. It's not about letting the other side determine your position. It's about making the case for a filibuster. They did a piss poor job. It's also about political strategy. Let's carry the filibuster to a logical conclusion. Presto, I wave my magic wand and dig up enough Senators to filibuster (41), Frist nukes the filibuster. Bye, bye to all judicial filibusters, not just SCOTUS filibusters. Angry red staters vote out Nelson and others. The Senate either remains 55 to 45, or the repubs actually make gains in a year in which we actually stand posed narrow the dem/repub gap or actually gain control. Sorry, but that really is a much likelier scenario than the dem being rewarded for filibustering. Again, they don't have the backing of the American people. Go that route and you're actually advancing the facist agenda rather than halting it. Time to move on from Alito and take back Congress.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 08:41 PM
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19. Not necessarily!
We need to destroy the fascist structure from its foundation, so it crumbles, not by destroying its steeple. I agree that it would be nicer if all Dems in Congress were screaming out that the Republicans are criminals, but the truth is, if it got all Democrats voted out of office, and we had only right wingers... what then? We have a unique and highly f*cked up situation in which our elections are dependant on huge, monstrous amounts of money. That's our problem right there.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:31 PM
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16. There's a potential Primary Challenger in your state. Guaranteed!
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 04:32 PM by pat_k
Primary Challengers can be found in every state. Ones who will stand and fight the good fights -- and run on "Impeach Bush and Cheney"

Such a person will mobilize folks -- big time.

Don't kid yourself. They KNOW we are out here. Listen to the pund-idiots. We've gone from Looney Left to THE BASE.

Threats of Republican backlash are nothing compared to the threat we pose.

Here's Class I (Senaters facing the voters this year)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 05:22 PM
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17. We have an open seat here this year
Bernie's well ahead in the polls. He's been a great rep, he'll be a great Senator. Having said that, I still hold Pat Leahy in the highest esteem, as do most Vermonters, despite his vote for Roberts. I don't expect to agree with him all of the time, but he's a man of great integrity. I've been around here long enough to have seen these threats over and over again. It's the this is the most important vote ever mentality. Doesn't exactly reflect well on us as a community. It's reactionary rather than reflective. I prefer the latter.
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:24 AM
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3. Feinstein has lost my vote
I've always supported her but those days are over. I will vote against her in the primaries. I heard dems are working really hard to find somebody that will run against her this year.


http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060116/D8F5HAMG0.html
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:30 AM
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5. yes -- she's my senator too - and i'll vote
against her in the primaries -- if she is in for the election -- i will not check that box{ER}.

i've lost patience with difi -- and something has to happen to get somebody's attention.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 06:32 PM
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18. oh good, i'm not alone in washing my hands of her!
i feel like i'm in good company. unfortunately i'm registered republican, so i can only throw a monkey wrench in their primaries (we got rid of open primaries and it ain't back, right?). if we're lucky maybe we can put bob dornan on the repub ticket for a resounding defeat. outside of orange county most areas of CA are pretty sane and would be repulsed by B1 bob.

you do your part, i'll do mine. :toast:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:32 AM
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6. Not my litmus test - I expect them to vote no
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 11:35 AM by dmordue
A fillibuster may appease some of their base but certainly has no impact in defeating Alito.

There are a lot of things dems stand for that differ from the current republicans running the country. I much prefer the dems to the current stock of republicans whether they decide to filibuster - its not whether they approve or disapprove of Alito - its whether they have the numbers and support of the American people to stop it - right now I see no evidence of either.
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SophieZ Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:42 AM
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A filibuster wins.
You need 41 senators to maintain a filibuster. There are 45 Dem senators.

So, the math works. If the centrist ones will cooperate.

What the congresspeople don't get (including the moderate Rs) is that Alito's rulings will increasingly marginalize Congress itself, and gradually shrink what little power it has now.

They are voting themselves out of a job, eventually. Alito's view of presidential power makes Congress into tokens, not a powerful branch of government.
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SophieZ Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:42 AM
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9. oops, it posted twice.
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 11:43 AM by SophieZ
deleting this one.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:39 AM
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7. LOL!
The phrase "delusions of grandeur" comes to mind.....
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:41 AM
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8. At least we can try!!!!
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 11:41 AM by Tesla
Hell I'm writing DeWine and Turner and Voinovich.

The lattter wouldn't even listen to his own advise about Bolton!!!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:46 AM
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11. This is MLK holiday, but I did write my senator feinstein
and plan to call her tomorrow

She has already "warned" not to do a filibuster, and if that occurs, I will NOT vote for her in November. Hopefully someone will challenge her in the primarys

If the democrats do NOT do everything to try and stop this nomination, including filibuster, even if the repukes exercise the nuke option the DNC can forget about further support from me.

I will continue to contribute to individual candidates, but the democrat party as a whole is NOT representative of my LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE views


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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 12:02 PM
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14. Uh, oh, Iggy
you're about to be called an ultra-left wing alarmist, as I was yesterday for suggesting OUR REPRESENTATIVES do everything in their power to keep this two-bit partisan hack off the court. Put on your asbestos.
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