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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:01 PM
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GORE in DC--I was there, history was made---He ROCKED. Here's the article
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0601/S00122.htm

Tuesday, 17 January 2006, 11:51 am

Al Gore’s Devastating Indictment of President Bush

CALLS FOR SPECIAL COUNSEL
Quiescent Congress and Judiciary Enabling Tyranny



Special for Scoop Independent Media
From Washington, DC
Michael Collins
January 16, 2005

Al Gore delivered a devastating indictment of President George Bush today in a major speech before three thousand cheering citizens at Washington DC’s Constitution Hall. (See... Al Gore: America's Constitution is in Grave Danger )

He provided a detailed specification of crimes against the U.S. Constitution and concluded by calling for the immediate appointment of a special counsel by Attorney General Gonzalez whose position is sorely compromised by conflict of interest. The future of the American experiment in rule by laws rather than men, the Constitution rather than tyranny, is at stake. Gore made the case that Executive Branch abuses of the Constitution represent rule through tyranny.

Gore quoted former Congressman Bob Barr who said, “The President has dared the American people to do something about it. For the sake of the Constitution, I hope they will.” Gores bill of particulars included the following actions:

1. Appointment of a special counsel immediately to investigate gross violations of the U.S. Constitution. Gore said, “Patrick Fitzgerald has, by all accounts, shown neither fear nor favor in pursuing allegations that the Executive Branch has violated other laws.” The specific investigation should “pursue the criminal issues raised by unwarranted wiretapping of Americans by the President.

2. “Whistle blower protections should immediately be established for members of the Executive Branch who report evidence of wrong doing” by the President and his team.

3. The Senate and the House should hold hearings “into these serious allegations of criminal behavior on the part of the President.”

4. “The Bush proposals for the Patriot Act “should under no circumstances be granted unless and until there are adequate and enforceable safeguards to protect the Constitution and the rights of the American people against the kinds of abuses that have recently been revealed.”

5. Gore called on “any telecommunications company” providing the government with access to private communication to “Immediately cease and desist their complicity in that apparent illegal invasion of the privacy of American citizens.”

6. Finally, going off of his prepared test, Gore said that any candidate for public office in 2006 should face a litmus test, regardless of party, based on their support for the appointment of a special counsel to investigate the President’s transgressions against the Constitution.




Bush: “…a threat to the very structure of our government.”

Gore began his speech with an example of disregard for Constitutional safeguards. He recalled the case of Martin Luther King and his victimization by the FBI. Through illegal surveillance, the government tried to end his effectiveness as a civil rights leader, destroy his marriage, “and blackmail him into committing suicide.” Gore pointed out that J. Edgar Hoover’s intimidation and threats to FBI staff caused them to perform illegal wire taps and engage on spying activities that they clearly knew were wrong. Then in a stunning indictment of former CIA Director, George Tenant by saying that “much the same thing” had happened in the delivery of intelligence, clearly false, to the President to justify the Iraq war. The crowd came to its feet for one of six standing ovations during the speech.

The author of the attack on the Constitution was clearly named, the President of the United States. Gore cited the example of unauthorized National Security Agency (NSA) “spying on large numbers of Americans for the last four years and eavesdropping on large volumes of telephone calls, e-mail messages and other internet traffic inside the United States.” Bush’s assurances that nothing like this was happening without appropriate judicial processes was cited as an example of false statements to serve the ends of executive power.

Bush: Assumes powers that “the Founders sought to nullify in the Constitution – an all powerful executive too reminiscent of the King from whom they had broken free.”

Gore cited Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Thomas Paine to make his case. He quoted Madison’s argument that the accumulation of “all powers, legislative, executive and judiciary, in the same hands...” is ‘the very definition of tyranny.’” This was a critical point that the former Vice President returned to throughout the speech: the United States was established with the goal of rule by law and not by men, rule by participation not tyranny. His presentation made it very clear that Bush represents a new form of despotism that seeks power to meet its ends rather than competing for power in the political process.

<snip>

He noted the quiescence of the legislative and judicial braches and the effective self-censorship of the media enable this process as never before. He was particularly harsh on television news, the primary source for political information for most Americans. Gore called for ongoing and expanded protection of the Internet as the citizens last hope for political dialog and advocacy.

A call for political courage. Our founders were threatened with hanging. What is holding current leaders back?

Gore noted that “fear drives out reason” as one justification for lack of congressional action. He pointed out that “The founders of our country faced dire threats. If they failed in their endeavors, they would have been hung as traitors.” He noted that even with British troops on the march, the founders stood steadfast in defense of the cherished goal of a rule by laws rather than men, the Constitution rather than tyranny.. He posed two more rhetorical questions. Are we in more danger now than the threats we faced from fascism? Are we in more danger now than the world-ending threats posed by Soviet power?

This was a clear indictment of Congress for failing to check relentless Executive power grabs and abuses and a call to arms a real opposition movement, not just of Democrats but of all who value the Constitution and American ideals.

One of the boldest political speeches in decades.

Today’s speech was no ordinary political event. It represented one of the boldest political attacks on the President by a major leader since the Civil War. A former Vice President, Senator, member of the House of Representatives, has just accused the President of the United States of willfully lying to the people of the United States in order to accumulate unconstitutional powers, subvert the Constitution, and change the face of American democracy from a government that seeks the rule of law to one that relies on the rule of men, in this case President George W. Bush. Lincoln was attacked for trying to ruin a way of life and accused of destroying the fabric of the constitution. Roosevelt was charged with trying to create a welfare state. Nixon was accused of specific crimes which violated his oath of office. But no President since the Civil War has been accused by a former Vice President or President of deliberately trying to end Constitutional rule through the unlawful accumulation of power; trying to impose tyranny on the people of the United States.

It was a remarkable speech that will send shockwaves across the political spectrum for years to come.

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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:03 PM
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1. Implicit in this speech is a call for revolution!
We the People have to take our country and our Constitution back.

No one else will do it for us.

Sue
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:07 PM
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4. If nothing else, Mr. Gore has said it is up to us - We the People...
And he is right... We all do so much, yet to little (as of right now) to effect change. I definitely could follow Mr. Gore and march to regain our democracy.

How do we get millions into the street?
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:21 PM
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12. I read the transcript and
my first thought was (well of course it was great) but would Al Gore have given the same speech if was still a member of the Senate? I mean really we hear tough talk from some Senator or Governor and then on some Sunday talk show they turn down the tone. Yes Gore's speech should be televised,not just on CSpan but on Prime time and make them damn Republicans listen to the truth.
I really belive that Al Gore just entered the 2008 Presidential race with this speech.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:33 PM
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Gore might have 'entered the race', but his real message was..
that of colossal ALARM. Our country and our democracy is at serious risk and he, the first person in the country of stature, is yelling RED ALERT.

Act now or we may die as a nation.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:10 PM
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6. Highly IMPLICIT. He called for a lot more too -- "restoration" I couldn'
get every thing in. This speech will be rehashed and reviewed for decades. It was amazing.

:hi:
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:20 PM
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23. Help me understand IMPLICIT
I've read about the right using code words so statements can sound moderate on their face but signal support to the base. Are you suggesting that Gore's speech contained comments that are supposed to affect us in that way? Is it like a wink and a nod to revolution? Please help me understand what point or points you believe were implicit.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:39 PM
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24. His message was non-partisan.
Quite the opposite. He was talking to conservatives too. This is not intended to rally the base, but more to mobilize Americans. He was supposed to be introduced by Bob Barr for crying out loud. But the satelite feed went down. This was more like a pox on anyone who will not oppose this power grab. He's right on the mark as far as I'm concerned.
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:33 AM
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35. This is not a criticism, but couldn't he have been even more aggressive?
Clearly this was a bold move and he stood up in a way that no one of his stature has yet done. Clearly a lot of preparation went into this, and a great deal of thought about strategy. I'm really not trying to be critical here, but I did not hear him call for revolution or even impeachment. This must just be a difference of opinion on strategy between Gore and me. I talk about peaceful revolution all the time because, flatly, it has become necessary!

I'm not interested in waiting for any more investigations to tell us things we already know. And I'm not interested in seeing Americans pour all their energy into trying to encourage politicians to change their ways. In my view, we are better off taking our own actions to directly influence change. I'm also not interested in a future that includes partisan politics, at least not any parties currently in existence. So please tell me, aside from the concrete things Gore was explicit about, what were the implicit messages that I seem to be missing?
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:14 AM
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48. I agree with you completely.
I wish he had anounced he was running for a House seat on an impeachment platform. He could win. We could win. But that would only be a beginning. The rot goes very deep and has been growing for at least a generation or two. This ideal of what this nation stands for, and stands against, is important. We are all true believers in something that has become a lie.

Liberty, equality, justice, they have all been turned on their head. It is not a liberal/conservative, pro-war/anti-war, pro-life/pro-choice, racist/progressive debate. It is about Americanism versus fascism. Plain and simple. But one impeachment isn't going to fix everything. It is the most rational place to start. And the sooner the better.

The enemy are monsters. They will stop at nothing. They have all the propagandists to shape the debate. But most of us are good people and we can win. We must win. The world is watching.
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:44 AM
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49. Thank you.
I strongly agree that impeachment isn't going to fix everything. I'm not so sure about it being the most rational place to start. For politicians, perhaps; but for We The People, this is an example of what I meant above about pouring effort into politicians. They're all but impervious to public opinion; AND when We are able to rally enough support, there will be far more meaningful accomplishments that will become possible than simply winning over one Congressman's vote out of a whole House otherwise more or less beyond our influence.

Another reason I have doubts about impeachment, at least in terms of smart planning for the Resistance, is that a change in figurehead will not impact the core corporate driven culture, the marriage of military-media-government-religion. As you put it, the rot. We The People will be better served by healing our communities, by bringing together People previously divided by design, by uniting in opposition to the government that is so intentionally divisive.

And last, I don't think Bush or Cheney, or maybe even others too, would stand for an impeachment trial. They have shown absolutely no regard for the law until now, I see no reason to expect them to change. This is especially so when I consider that impeachment hearings couldn't possibly omit war crimes charges, and especially violations of the 1996 War Crimes Act which makes it a crime punishable by death to violate or order others to violate the Geneva Convention. I just can't see Bush allowing himself to be put on trial for his life. There are too many unprotected ports and chemical plants. And then there's too much martial law.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:35 AM
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67. To quote another poster from another board:
"70% of the people in this country support return of the government back to the people, rebuilding and maintenance of the public infrastructure for the benefit of all, rights and protections for workers, land use planning and protection of the natural world, equal opportunity and protection under the law for all citizens, and have no interest in harassing their neighbors because of their race, gender, religion, gender preference or for any other reason." - mberst

This is a non-partisan view, and I think it is correct, even in the red states. It is an idea that can be supported by many diverse belief systems and ideologies. I have noticed that in talking to my right-wing friends, as long as I refuse to defend Democrats and give them their rightful share of the blame, it is much easier than I ever imagined to get at least a partial consensus. No one seriously believes that Clinton was impeached for more serious things than what these guys have already admitted to. People are not that stupid. (Most people.) But their hackles come up whenever they detect any attempt to defend Clinton. He's the anti-Christ. Admit that may be the case, and the whole discussion changes. Maybe they know deep down that he was wronged somehow, and just don't like having their noses rubbed in it. Who knows? But the sharp polarization between the parties is very wide maybe, but it is also very shallow. It must collapse soon, I think.

I don't expect Bush or Cheney to make it through something like impeachment. An unfortunate bicycle accident while eating a pretzel, or something to that effect. Bush is definitely not strong enough emotionally to survive an ordeal like that. He has always avoided any repercussions from actions. And Cheney knows where too many skeletons are buried.

I do think Bush would be a good candidate for the ICC, and should be turned over to the Hague if he is impeached. He has no strategic intelligence value.


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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:51 PM
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74. Great quotation from mberst and great comment, as always...
:hi:
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 10:49 PM
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76. Thanx Auto,
I watched it on C-SPAM and I was there with you in spirit. Too bad the guy has no charisma. LOL. I love this guy and have tremendous confidence in him.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:27 PM
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77. Maybe the stars will align, the universe will evolve a couple of degrees,
and we'll elect someone based on intelligence and experience rather than Pablum fed to the masses by a corrupt media (myself excluded;) of course)
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:54 PM
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73. You're so right...
...and its not going to happen at the ballot box, they've got that covered. En masse, Nonviolent, noncooperation with this regime is our last hope.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:07 PM
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2. Wonderful article!
Kicked and recommended.

:kick:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:11 PM
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7. Thanks so much!
I felt honored to be in the Hall. He really laid it out.

He made a point of mentioning that Sen. Feinstein was there, then he nailed congress.

A speech for the decade!
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:16 PM
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11. I am envious that you saw it live! Good for you....
I watched it on CSPAN with my cat. Even my cat loved it :)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:43 PM
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27. You have a "GT" cat--gifted with great insight and owner!
:hi:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:07 PM
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3. congratulations and thanks
....for being a DU-er on the scene!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:14 PM
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9. Welcome! I'll bet there were others. Could have explained the 6 standing
ovations he got.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:08 PM
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5. But...but...but...
there was no sex involved. So...how can it rise to the level of impeachment. *Sorry, I couldn't resist*

I'm still curious as to why the fanatical right isn't as upset about this as they were about Clinton's sexcapades. To be honest...I was outraged at Clinton's behavior. I considered it sophomoric and arrogant. But this crap. It's criminal. It undermines the republic. I am sickened and appalled by scrubbies behavior.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:13 PM
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8. Well...
Gores "kiss" with Tipper was pretty intense...but they're married.

He rocked. It was very clear that he believes *'s behavior is criminal.

I love the litmus test for candidates of all parties: support special counsel action -- you get our vote; fail to do so, you do not!

I love that one.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:14 PM
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10. Happy you got to go; Gore can "shell down the corn" !
NoFederales
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:33 PM
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15. And he can "clean the Emperor's clock";)
Tere was noting left of the * Presidency after the speech ended. Nothing will be the same again.

It was an amazing experience.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:42 PM
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19. Gore is a dynamic speaker and inspiring--I'm a hard sell, but I feel
empowered after a rousing Gore message. I wish more people would let those messages come through.

NoFederales
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:28 PM
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13. Excellent coverage Autorank!
:yourock:
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:31 PM
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14. New angle and very important
When Gore mentioned the times when our country was in real danger, Revolutionary war, communism/cold war (nuclear) and fascism, it put in prospective this "war on terrorism". Someone mentioned today that the jury is still out as to how much threat to the world terrorism is. This is bush's only angle to keep his underlings in line, fear, every speech it's there front and center. Gore explained it so well.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:37 PM
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16. Didn't he tough. I just got back from Williamsburg, the Dem Govs
Edited on Mon Jan-16-06 10:40 PM by autorank
Inauguration. The parade had a colonial theme. The best marching groups were the fief and drum corps...early teens who marched into battle to rouse the troops and signal actions. They were routinely shot! Their parents faced hanging by the British for their impertinence -- seeking self rule by law.

WHERE IS CONGRESS? WHERE IS THE JUDICIARY?

WHY ARE THEY SO FRIGHTENED?

You captured the most telling indictment, aside from *, those who enable.

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GoreDean2008 Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:40 PM
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17. This Was President Gore's State of the Union Address
Delivered on January 16, 2006. It was truly magnificent!
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:41 PM
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18. Thanks for the great recap!
I was there too and I counted closer to a dozen standing Ohs. He was eloquent, passionate, unifying, and optimistic. We must demand that our representatives, Democratic and Republican, heed his call to mount a defense of the Constitution in the name of the people!

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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:46 PM
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21. Mental observation of the latest revelations of bushco
If this sh-t keeps piling up you can't help but smell it.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:41 PM
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25. I'll go with a dozen. I was up frequently, as was my wife.
I was at the front of the right section, behind the vips. There was one guy in the center section in front of me who stood up about 20 x's.

I was fortunate enough to get one of the speech copies (sitting amongst some MSM). What an eloquent argument and rhetorical flourish.

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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:07 PM
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69. Holy Cow! Were you in the third row?
I saw that guy who stood up almost half the time. He was in the row in front of me and over a few. It would've been great to meet you, you're a legend!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:38 PM
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80. Ii wish we had met. We need a distinctive piece of clothing as a code.
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 11:53 PM by autorank
Maybe a monicle! Or an alarm clock on a big gold chain:evilgrin:

You sound like you were in the middle. I was in the side aisle, two seats down from
Byron York :argh: He's a Mac person, an older lap top. I wanted to say, "By, just let
me write your column, just this once." Could't 'jack it, "wouldn't be prudent." York and Ron
Brownstein connected after the speech, noticed as I walked out. I have remarkable restrait.
The "epithets" as we call them in DC were streaming through my cynical mind.

I'm eternally grateful to my wife who just said, "Lets do it" when I got the tickets.

I had no idea we'd be seeing history. Did you?
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 10:45 PM
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20. DAMN! THAT GORE GUY SPEAKS WITH A BIG FONT!!!
that's probably a great summary but i can't scroll from across the room.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 07:26 AM
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60. Here's a close up....
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:00 PM
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22. Outstanding, autorank!!
Nominated!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:43 PM
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26. Thank you! It was a privilege being there. Amazing event.
This one has legs and will serve as a unifying document.

I urge everyone to read the entire speech!

:hi:
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:56 PM
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28. It's so wonderful that you could be there!
I missed the beginning, but helderheid posted the transcript. ... Breathtakingly awesome!

:patriot: :hi:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:58 PM
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29. You're the most outstanding teenager I've come across in a long time
I'm scouring CSpan now for reruns of the speech. Autorank YOU ROCK TOO !

I request you get audio of the Who's LET's SEE ACTION and get even further inpired. They can't put 50% of us in their REX 84/Op Cablesplicer/Op GardenPlot campgrounds...and they know it!
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:59 PM
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30. Huh?!!!
:D
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:01 AM
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32. I'm talkin' bout autorank
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:02 AM
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33. "You're the most outstanding teenager I've come across in a long time" ???
Huh???????
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:07 AM
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50. autorank, the OP of this thread, is a teenager
What are you so confused about???

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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:27 AM
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51. Really?
She addressed it to me, then added: "Autorank YOU ROCK TOO !"
So no, I'm not the one who's confused.

I thought it was pretty funny, actually.
And no, I don't think that Autorank is a teenager either. (Married with kids.)

(In our dreams, huh Auto! :D )
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:55 PM
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72. Well, I'm confused now, too
When she said that I thought I remembered autorank being a teen, but it must've been someone else...

But, I'll take that misunderstanding any day, lol. Better than being called an old geezer.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:11 AM
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56. '50 is the new 30'Lauren Hutton.Rumors of my age are vastly underestimated
But I appreciate the thought:evilgrin:

Because, well, the adolescent brain process information twice as fast as the rest of us.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:51 PM
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81. Origin of the 'rank as teenager...
Here is the web site that was listed in my profile for some time:

http://www.somethingawful.com/jeffk/

Here's the picture of the infamous haxor "jeffk" pictured at the web site (part of somethingawful.com)



Now lets start a rumor: autorank is jeffk and he's dating Lauren Hutton!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:00 AM
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31. Truly outstanding, "autorank"! Today, was in_deed a new beginning ...
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 12:04 AM by understandinglife
... and now "We the People ..." have no excuses; we must deliver:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=149007&mesg_id=153653

Thank you, my friend,
Bob


Peace.
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FULL_METAL_HAT Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:07 AM
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34. What a true honor!
Autorank you are one lucky dog!!!!!

And the article is excellent!

Somehow it feels like 1775!

President Gore must have been electric in person.

Its been such an amazing day, words fail me!

Recommended!!

{B^)

p.s. more about the event and atmosphere would be super appreciated for everyone green with envy of your attendence at HISTORY!! :>
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:53 AM
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38. 1775, great point. We are on the verge of something. the reverberations
of this will be with us.

Gore laid out a devastating critique of the MSM/CM television news media and made it clear that there was no help coming from that direction. He also made it very clear that the Internet was the salvation of political freedom, very clear.

"We the people" have it in our hands, and we're not doing a bad job. Look at the numbers on *...ALL WITHOUT the input of MSM/CM.

Have they covered Iraq?

Did they cover Katrina for more than a few days?

Have they covered eco catastrophes and predictions?

Did they cover torture for more than a couple of weeks?

Are they negligent? YES THEY ARE!!!

We'll have the final word and begin the "restoration" soon.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:37 AM
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36. PBS ignores Gore...OUTRAGEOUS...see this thread!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2372477

and let your voice be heard...it's good therapy, telling the truth to quislings. Afterall, if they told the truth, they might lose their BMW's ;)
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:51 AM
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37. K & R - the major corporate media are ignoring this speeech
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 01:02 AM by Nothing Without Hope
Just like they ignored the Downing Street Minutes and so much else. But the truth is beginning to break through despite them, I do believe.

You were at the speech??? Wow, what an experience. Here's a report from another eyewitness:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2372122
thread title (1/16/06 GD-P): My report from Constitution Hall
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:54 AM
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39. althecat just did a Yahoo search. This article was beating AP's report.
MSM, eat your heart out!

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:40 AM
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52.  ***COMPILATION*** of links & DU threads on the historic 1/16 GORE SPEECH
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:00 AM
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40. available now on C-span-org
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:00 AM
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41. available now on C-span-org
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:00 AM
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42. Autorank, I'm so glad that you could be there!
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 01:01 AM by JulieRB
>concluded by calling for the immediate appointment of a special counsel<

I am, frankly, afraid of whom Gonzalez would appoint at this time. He's been hands off America's Hottest Prosecutor because of the fallout if any of them interfere in the CIA leak investigation. At the same time, I'm sure the appointment of Patrick Fitzgerald to that post meant that Gonzalez was left off the White House Christmas Card list this year.

I want a special counsel, too, but hell, what if we end up with a * crony that does nothing more than whitewash the "investigation"? :scared:

In the meantime, doesn't Al Gore rock the free world? I DREAM Al Gore runs for President, is elected (once again,) and spends the next eight years being the grownup in the room. I know he has the, well, intestinal fortitude to stack his Cabinet and his administration with those who want to clean out the rat's nest, once and for all. (Please, dear God, let his first two appointments be James Comey for Attorney General and Patrick Fitzgerald running the FBI...)

Julie

p.s. BTW, I did not miss Mr. Gore's carefully referring to Martin Luther King's "murder".
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:13 AM
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43. JulieRB, thanks. It was momentous.
Take a look at the full text. He clearly implies that Fitzgerald should be that special counsel! and he knows that Gonzalez would have to do what he did before, recuse himself from the decision and let someone else do it. Everyday Comey and Fitzgerald get up and goes to work is a great day for America. We are on the verge of great things. Today was the formal beginning at the top. The days after election 2004 were the official beginning for the people, those who recognized a crime when they saw it.

...and yes, the "murder" phrasing was very pointed. So was the wording about Tenant--which is not in the prepared text. He compared Tenant directly to the FBI staff who spied on King knowing it was both wrong and illegal. It was quite a moment. You're an excellent reader...to pick up the "murder" comment.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:23 PM
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71. I'm going to rewatch it as well
>Take a look at the full text.<

I read the prepared text. I'll have to read the updated one as well. I DVR'ed the speech so DH could see it, too; he'll probably watch it this evening, and then I'll see it for the second time.

>He clearly implies that Fitzgerald should be that special counsel! and he knows that Gonzalez would have to do what he did before, recuse himself from the decision and let someone else do it.<

You know, there could never be too much of Patrick Fitzgerald and his investigations for me :loveya:, but I'm wondering to myself when he and his poor staff are going to hit critical mass. So many investigations, so little time. At the same time, I agree with Al Gore: He's the man to do this, but the question is, when? Is there another special counsel that would actually go at the investigation "without fear or favor"?

>Everyday Comey and Fitzgerald get up and goes to work is a great day for America.<

I have to believe that there are others working for the DOJ that are just as talented but a little more unsung. Let's bring them out into the spotlight, too. There's plenty of work to go around.

I would have LOVED to have been a fly on the wall the day Mr. Comey told * he wasn't going along with the wiretapping...

Julie


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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:26 AM
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44. Ow, now my eyes hurt
:crazy: large boldface type!
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:50 AM
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45. My favorite moment:
"I call upon Democratic and Republican members of Congress today to uphold your oath of office and defend the Constitution. Stop going along to get along. Start acting like the independent and co-equal branch of government you're supposed to be."

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:35 AM
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54. Spanked 'em good didn't he. They're off to bed with out a bottle.
They should be ashamed of their behavior. They should reform their behavior.

I hope Diane Feinstein got the message. She was right there. Ya think?;)
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:08 AM
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55. Day-um, I wish they had captured her reaction on camera to that part
of Gore's speech! She has long been violating her oath of office. Time to reconsider that Alito filibuster, Ms. Feinstein!

Sure hope she was paying attention... And I hope she realizes that A LOT of us were. ;)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:35 AM
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57. Hubbys big contracts with DOD speak loudly.
She's a poor representative of the Golden State! No guts, no glory! She never herd that one.

More like, no vote for the Bush tax cut, no greased contracts.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 05:53 AM
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58. No-bid contracts in Iraq, defense industry involvement...
The more I know about DiFi and her even-more-nefarious hubby, the more my skin crawls.

x(
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 06:58 AM
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59. That was sweet--and so necessary.
Hopefully it will serve as a wake up call to those self-serving Congresscritters on both sides of the aisle.

I think I'll give mine a little call today.
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thatsrightimirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:02 AM
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46. Is this a signal for 08
Its sort of hard to imagine giving a speech like that and then sitting at home doing nothing!
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 02:11 AM
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47. now I wish he gave that speech two years ago!!
hearing Gore speak makes me proud that I voted for him in 2000..:applause:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 04:34 AM
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53. Gore was sitting on stage. Someone shouted "Gore 08". He looked up, ...
smiled and seemed to give a thumbs up or some-other encouraging gesture. He enjoyed it, there was no doubt about that.

He's the only candidate with the full set of qualifications to run things, and the only one we can trust. After a speech like this, you really cut your ties to "the establishment", never truly trusted again...your a "populist" even without the shouting and hoot and hollering.

I'd vote for him as my #1 choice, give, work real hard, etc.

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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:17 AM
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61. thanks for your magnificient rendition autorank!
It's great you could be there!
And yes, let's make this a new beginning!
Gore for '08! Only he won't ever be fooled again!
Thanks many times autorank!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:55 PM
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82. Thank you. This was well worth the time and effort and it wasn't that
hard. DC clears out on Federal holidays. It was even possible to park (sort of).

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 10:01 AM
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63. I thought Gore wagged his finger and shook his head when
someone yelled "'08". That's how it looked where I sat (first row behind the reserved section on the floor).

Judging by the expression on his face (he seemed to be mock scolding), he was being ambiguous at best.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:09 AM
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64. I took it as a yes but that's what I wanted to see. Lets hope.
It was an amazing experience wasn't it? Gore was simply at 100%, no errors, just brilliance.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:58 AM
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62. Brilliant! That you got to be there,
autorank and I'm betting Al Gore actually wrote his own speech unlike the chimp who has to have his piped in!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:11 AM
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65. He does write his own speeches. Used to be a journalist.
That may be why the press resents him, he can both write well and think through complex topics, skills the MSM is lacking. I was next to some MSM types. They missed the whole point. That's OK. It will take several weeks for thish to flesh out.

The WH reaction is driving a lot of the publicity now and the Internet as well.

Great day for America.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:21 AM
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66. what a great post
Thanks, it made my day! With this Gore approach, I'd like to see him on a ticket with Russ as vice. Wouldn't that combo be a devastating duo for the Nazi Repukes?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:31 PM
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78. Jeffersons Ghost, that's "the ticket" -- wow...north, south, 100% smart.
By 07 people will realize the cost of the Iraq war in death, injury, and money. There will be Hell to pay and neither of these guys is in the way. Hillary and the rest who cheered as Bush reviewed the troops from his swivel seat will regret the day they failed to stand up for the Constitution.

They talk about the need to respond quickly to international crises, hence Presidential powers to take military action. Name more than one or two in decades where we should have responded. We need Congress to be Congress not a rubber stamp.

Gore-Feingold, a ticket you can trust

btw, I'm sure TJ would approve.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:56 PM
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88. I'm glad you like the "ticket"
Personally my preference is Feingold, Gore but Russ lacks the name recognition and visibility of Gore this year but he's still young as presidents go and there's plenty of time for my hero since his vote on the USA Patriot Act to bring back Jefferson style Democracy. With what the spin-tyrant and his Nazi cronies (alito) are doing it will take good people like these two decades to straighten out this mess... It's always the good guys who end up cleaning up the messes of dictators.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:41 PM
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68. Superb job of putting this speech into the context of history, autorank.
It was truly an historic moment.

He was so thorough and unabashed in the way he dissected the motives and techniques of this administration, and so learned in his use of American history and political theory, that I still can't quite believe it.

Thanks for the splendid article!

:thumbsup:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:32 PM
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79. Thank you and I'm still recalling your post with Rove and the young lady
on election eve. Maybe it's time for a reprise;)

Lots of truth in those images.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:47 PM
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85. I've got a little more info to add, so maybe I'll take your suggestion.
And, any doubt after Scotty's non-denials yesterday that Abramoff was meeting with Rove in the WH?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:31 PM
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89. No dougt, Abramoff is the Albatross;) Looking forward to the post!!!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 01:35 PM
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70. Excellent post autorank!
Kicked and nominated!

:kick:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:56 PM
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83. Well thanks Uncle Joe. We will prevail.
There's more to come from Gore. He may make the circuit on the news shows and just mow down the MSM Mediawhores. He would be both devastating and mocking. He's got it 100% together.
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LaCrosseDem Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 10:02 PM
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75. this guy is simply outstanding
He is obviously back. He's got the intellect and the guts to say what needs to be said. The pubs have nobody to match Gore. Let's hope he does indeed run again.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:59 AM
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84. www.algore.org
Check out this website and forum for Gore supporters: www.algore.org

Registration is free, and it's a good way to show your support for Al Gore.

In Gore We Trust :)
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:51 PM
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86. Are you from Ohio
He needs to go on a media blitz now.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:56 PM
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87. I think Gore (or his people) underestimated the positive response...
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 12:56 PM by poli speak
...he ultimately got, and it reminds me of the speech Pres Carter gave at our last convention, and the Kerry people were mad because they thought it was too negative, which is totally ridiculous, we've become accessories to the hijacking of our democracy.
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