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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:09 PM
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Gee it looks like the most important political speech of our times
just flew by right under the radar. Did any national newspaper put it on page 1? Was it a lead story on any major media?

The former vice president, the winner of the 2000 presidential election, spells out the categoric high crimes and misdemeanors of the current administration and notes that the republic is in a constitutional crisis from which it may not recover, and the 'liberal' media yawns.

I am outraged beyond my own comprehension.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:11 PM
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1. Me too. I specifically watched Jim Lehr and there was nothing,
nil, nada,Zilch.....made me sick.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:14 PM
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2. you don't think "most important political speech of our times"...
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 03:15 PM by SteppingRazor
might be just a teeny, tiny bit hyperbolic?

pardon me while I don my flame retardant suit. It's just that I've heard very similar phrasing regarding Conyers' speech about DSM, among many other things.

Personally, I think Bush's speech about "if you're not with us, you're with them" and all that may be the most important political speech, at least since the beginning of the 21st century. It marked the end of American democracy and the beginning of American empire.

Of course, I'm not saying it was a good speech, and certainly not supporting the policy behind the speech. But in terms of importance, it's pretty hard to argue with.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:17 PM
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5. Hey, whatever happened to the Downing Street Minutes?
That in and of itself was grounds for impeachment.

Damn right that was an important speech.

But if we use your gauge, how it resonates in the compliant toady MSM, that wasn't very important either.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:24 PM
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9. My gauge isn't reception by the media...
my gauge is how the plans and policies outlined in the speech affected the country.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:19 PM
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6. Actually no I don't.
Al Gore has more stature than just about anybody else in the country. Al Gore is not just somebody else noting that the criminals in the white house have sent the constitution out for special rendition.

In terms of importance, the equivalent Bush statements are the ones that laid claim to dictatorial powers outside of any constitutional control. The were more or less offhand remarks rather than formal speeches.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:14 PM
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3. I saw a tiny bit of coverage on CNN yesterday
I think it was Late Edition but I'm not sure. They were interviewing Bob Barr, who'd been scheduled to introduce Gore but was unable to make it. Barr was asked why he would join forces with a Democrat on this issue and he replied that all Americans, regardless of political philosophy, should be alarmed by this overstepping of Presidential authority. So that was cool but not nearly enough.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:15 PM
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4. Muttering to myself...
On the morning commute the Bill Press show was all about - 'are poltical statements appropriate in hollywood award shows'. I kid you not. These are out friends. WTF?
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:22 PM
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7. Gore's righteous anger/articulation delivered brilliantly
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:22 PM
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8. Patience. . .the revolution won't be televised
Let MSM go to hell. . .just keep your eyes on the prize.

:smoke:
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:26 PM
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10. Actually if it doesn't get on TV it didn't happen.
This has been true for quite some time. Our inability to get any unapproved message into the media stream is a huge problem.
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:47 PM
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15. You missed my point. . .
historically, any successful movement acts in spite of the press coverage. . .

in fact, that is why eventually the press vultures will swoop down after the genuine leaders of the progressive movement AS THEY STAND UP to the Bush Crime Family. . .

the only people who need to know progressives are coming after them IS the Bush Crime Family. . . no press announcements needed.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:31 PM
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11. The importance of the speech is directly related to its reporting
While content and timing of the speech are one thing, the number of people that hear it is another. And if the echo chamber would pick it up and talk about it, it would be extremely important.

The speech was given, but its importance is yet to be determined. To some degree each of us have an effect on its importance. Excellence is one thing. Importance is another.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:34 PM
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12. I agree.
Perhaps I ought to edit the headline to be 'what should have been' rather than 'the' most important speech. To that extent I have to agree with the other poster here that my statement was indeed hyperbole.

What should have been a stop the presses moment has instead become another 'who did what?' event in our continuing sad saga of media complicity in the death of the republic.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:37 PM
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14. I think we're almost in perfect agreement now...
Hell, a lot of very great speeches were given the other day -- Dean, Sen. Clinton and Gore all gave excellent speeches. And it certainly is funny that none of them were mentioned a whole lot. -- hell, I don't ask for much. Why not just one, big story on all three? That'd be fine with me.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 03:35 PM
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13. Yeah. What you said.
:thumbsup:

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