Sen. Obama and Mrs. Bush on Sen. Clinton's and Mayor Nagin's comments

[ProSense]

Obama defends Hillary Clinton's 'plantation' remark

Associated Press

January 18, 2006, 12:20 PM EST

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Barack Obama on Wednesday defended Sen. Hillary Clinton for describing the House of Representatives as a ``plantation,'' saying he felt her choice of words referred to a ``consolidation of power'' in Washington that squeezes out the voters.

The senator told CNN's ``American Morning'' he believed that Clinton was merely expressing concern that special interests play such a large role in writing legislation that ``the ordinary voter and even members of Congress who aren't in the majority party don't have much input.''

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First lady Laura Bush, en route home from a visit to West Africa, criticized Clinton.

``It think it's ridiculous _ it's a ridiculous comment,'' Mrs. Bush told reporters when asked about the senator's remark. Obama, D-Ill., also told ABC's ``Good Morning America'' that under GOP control in Washington, ``what one has seen is the further concentration of power around a very narrow agenda that advantages the most powerful.''

Obama also said New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin was correct to apologize for suggesting that the hurricane-ravaged city would be majority black again because ``it's the way God wants it to be.''

more...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-118hillary,0,951280.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

First Lady Assails Sen. Clinton for Remark

By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
16 minutes ago

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Mrs. Bush, who said her next trip likely will be to New Orleans to visit schools damaged in the hurricane, also reacted to a comment by New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin that stirred controversy. Nagin had said: "This city will be chocolate at the end of the day." He later apologized.

Nagin also said the hurricane that devastated New Orleans was God's way of showing displeasure about U.S. involvement in Iraq. "Surely God is mad at America," Nagin said in a speech Monday. "Surely He's not approving of us being in Iraq under false pretense. But surely He's upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves."

Asked about the comment, Mrs. Bush joked that she didn't really think she could speak for God. Then she added that she believes Nagin wants New Orleans to be rebuilt.

"He wants people who lived in New Orleans to come back," Mrs. Bush said. "I do to, and I know the president does too. You know it's going to take a long time."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060118/ap_on_go_pr_wh/laura_bush_nigeria_3

[jobycom]

1. He's right, Nagin was right to apologize. But he was still right to say it

[savemefromdumbya]

2. Plantation was very clever

Hills has got them right where she wants them! Like a sword through the heart of the Republican organization!

[JuniperLea]

9. Yes, indeed!

In order to dispute that comment, they would have to prove it wrong. Simply saying something is in bad taste or somewhat harsh is meaningless.

I stand and applaud her, as did the crowd in Harlem. We need to stand united; if you are not in the top 2% protected by The Bush Regime, you are a "slave" on the "plantation".

[savemefromdumbya]

13. Plantation covers a lot of ground

it covers the plantation worldwide including the Cheney's torture camps, it covers the way Bush turned his back on the people hit by Hurrican Katrina, it incorporates more. It was a very clever comment.

[JuniperLea]

17. I think it includes

every country that BushCo has their eyes on. Spreading democracy = increasing the size of the plantation.

[harlinchi]

19. The GOP's response is revealing!

If I were to call someone a lazy, good-for-nothing, child-abusing, bald-headed bahstud and they responded that my statement was wrong: they have a full head of hair, that kinda accepts the other descriptions (i.e., lazy, good-for-nothing and child-abusing) as accurate.

Sen. Clinton said this is likely to be considered the worst administration in history and that they have cowed the GOP-run House to the point where it's run like a plantation. The Administration says the word 'plantation' is a little over the top (a phrase I hope will be banned from use post 2006 elections)! Their responses had nothing to do with being described as the worst administration in history! I guess they recognize some facts when they see them!

[savemefromdumbya]

21. it is the implications and 'unsaid' that go a long way

I do think she did drive the stake right through.

We have to ask the GOP over the top of what - the corruption scandals - I think not!

[rodeodance]

3. basically laurs ridicules HIL and excuses Nigan. Interesting to say the

least.

[rodeodance]

5. FLASHBACK: Gingrich Said Democrats Think They “Run The Plantation”

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/


http://www.thinkprogress.org/
FLASHBACK: Gingrich Said Democrats Think They “Run The Plantation”

Prodded by the right-wing, the media is already swarming around Sen. Hillary Clinton for saying the House of Representatives “has been run like a plantation…It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard.” MSNBC has already launched a poll: “Was Clinton’s ‘plantation’ comparison too harsh?”

How long before the media mentions that Newt Gingrich, just before becoming Speaker of the House, made the same comparison in 1994:

“I clearly fascinate them,” Gingrich said of the Democrats. “I’m much more intense, much more persistent, much more willing to take risks to get it done. Since they think it is their job to run the plantation, it shocks them that I’m actually willing to lead the slave rebellion.”



http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns...

Clinton Slams Bush, White House in Harlem


NEW YORK -- Sen. Hillary Clinton on Monday blasted the Bush administration as "one of the worst" in U.S. history and compared the Republican-controlled House of Representatives to a plantation where dissenting voices are squelched.

Speaking during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day event, Clinton also offered an apology to a group of Hurricane Katrina survivors "on behalf of a government that left you behind, that turned its back on you." Her remarks were met with thunderous applause by a mostly black audience at the Canaan Baptist Church of Christ in Harlem.


The House "has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about," said Clinton, D-N.Y. "It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard."

"We have a culture of corruption, we have cronyism, we have incompetence," she said. "I predict to you that this administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country."

[Debau2005]

14. But, but, but

that's different! :shrug:

[AtomicKitten]

20. The Repubs will take EVERY opportunity to dis Hillary

All the people at DU that despise Hillary should take heart. After the 8-year jihad against the Clintons while they were in the WH, you can bet the Repubs will NEVER miss an opportunity to trash her, for anything, everything, nothing.

Maybe at some point those that are the most toxic and vociferous about hating Hillary will finally choose sides and take umbrage at the concentrated effort to trash the Dem candidate Repubs fear the most. Although I definitely prefer at least a handful of candidates before Hillary, I am incensed at the tag-team efforts by the Republicans to Swift Boat her.

If anybody is going to trash her, it will be those here at DU and NOT the Republicans! * sarcasm *

[waiting for hope]

4. Once again...

the MSM has left something out - Ray Nagin said that chocolate was a mixture of milk and chocolate - meaning that it would be both black and white.

[Coastie for Truth]

7. Right On - NT

[ellenfl]

16. i heard on the radio last night that new orleans

considers itself 'chocolate' with the suburbs being 'vanilla'. if so, it is apparently their own vernacular that he was using. y'all know there seems to be a repug move afoot to make new orleans more 'vanilla'.

ellen fl

[EST]

6. My own estimation of Nagin

has gone from positive hopeful to repulsed. The man is a garbage brain.

[Crazy Dave]

8. Nagin is an idiot.

"A registered Republican for most of his life, Nagin became a Democrat just before running for mayor."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nagin

He conned the City of New Orleans by pretending to be a democrat just to get elected.

[JuniperLea]

10. A lot of Republicans are coming into the light

I applaud them and welcome them with open arms. No good can come from divisiveness within the party. Now is the time to unite, not divide.

[Crazy Dave]

15. Please don't get me wrong...

I love it too (republicans joining our side) but only for common sense, moral, social and political beliefs, not solely for political gain. The majority of his democratic critics say it is just that. Whatever it took to gain power just like the game Hillary is playing.

[formernaderite]

23. He's now trying to con everyone into believing he's a "black" mayor

God wants NO to remain black???? Give me a break....and tell him to stop sounding like a fundie announcing what his god guy is thinking.

[SharonRB]

11. All of a sudden she can't speak for G-d?

Georgie still does, though, I'm sure.

[Virginian]

12. Why are they quoting Laura Bush?

She is not an elected official and has shown poor judgement by marrying Dubya. It is just his money that has kept her married to the lush.

[sherrys]

18. she has shown she has bad taste of character

Marrying and belieiving in her man is her right, but don't make comments that the rest of us should be blinded by him as she is!

We could care less what her opinion is.

[ProSense]

22. Welcome!

:hi:

It's hard to understand why Mrs. Bush's poll numbers are high. She is married to someone who not only heads one of the worst administrations in American history, but also believes lying and cheating his way into war is okay. She supports everything he does and is not an innocent bystander.

[Virginian]

24. Welcome to DU, Sherrys

We hope you like it here.

I find it to be a nice place to hear the truth in this world of MSM spin.


You said it right, "We could care less what her opinion is." and why does the mainstream media think we should care. They know she is just parrotting the party line. She's such a good little Stepford Wife. So obedient.

[MsUSA]

26. I heard some strategist wants to put Laura out front and center

because they think she can handle questions off the cuff better the * , and he needs all the help he can get.

[zann725]

25. Oh right, Pickles wants the original citizens to move back!Tell me another

...maybe about use of Eminent Domain changes.

[otohara]

27. Pickles PR Person Busy Sending Press Releases

out on every little thing she says lately.

Breaking News: Laura Bush said today, she strongly disagrees with __________ on __________ saying___________. Mrs Bush later said she supports what ever lies and bullshit her husband puts out there, unconditionally.