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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:06 PM
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Should Big Dog help w/ Iran and save Junior's ass
on that front? The Independent is proposing that the "World's President" head to Iran to head off the imminent disaster there.

http://www.buzzflash.com/mediawatch/06/01/wmw06006.html

Should he do it? Would Poppy be able to talk To Stupid To Be President into asking him? Does it have any hope of succeeding?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:12 PM
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1. He should do it to save our ass from jr.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 08:16 PM
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16. Is that not co-dependence? Protecting someone from consequences
of their behavior?

I know that many innocent may suffer, they're suffering now. Both here and abroad.

As long as people keep voting for * and his cronies, many more innocent will suffer.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:12 PM
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2. If Junior's ass was the only thing at stake, I'd say no
But if Clinton's intervention can help, countless lives will be saved so he should do it.
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:34 PM
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14. same here
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:15 PM
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3. The question is, could he?
Based on past behavior, anything Clinton did would be subverted by Chimpy. And Poppy couldn't stop the idiot son from starting a war, so there's no reason to think the result would be different now.

Bush thinks he's on a mission from God. Not much you can do with somebody suffering from a messiah complex.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:07 PM
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12. Next logical step
If Clinton goes there - gets "something" - and Young Bushie subverts it and pre-empts us into war --- Clinton and the Dems will get the blame.

The Repukes can't govern worth a crap -- but they can scape goat, shift blame, spin, and swift boat.

Besides can you see Young Bushie walking away from that much oil?
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:25 PM
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13. Exactly
If Chimpy is willing to sign an anti-torture law with the caveat, "Unless I want to do it," there's no reason to trust him and every reason to assume you'll get stabbed in the back and assigned the blame.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:16 PM
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4. It would break law for Clinton to anything without Bush asking first
they get nasty if you "pretend" you speak for the US and are not their on behalf of the current administration.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:18 PM
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5. Yeah, that's why I wondered if Smirk could be persuaded
to act like a man and a leader for once in his life and do the right thing.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:24 PM
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6. I know he'd need Shrubs approval, but couldn't BC request
an opportunity to try? Even Shrub and his buddies have to admit BC is a MUCH better negotiator than any of them are!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:21 PM
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15. :-) I agree Clinton is worth 10 Bush or Rice types. Would W allow?
:-)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:31 PM
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7. Only if you're ready to defend the "First Penis" ?
To tell you the truth, I'm way beyond getting bitch-slapped with that damn "thing". Especially, that nobody's explained to "lucy", in the past 5+ years, where Bush was with his swinging dick that "missing TANG" year !?!

:shrug:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:32 PM
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8. Not likely....
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/petrov/petrov011706.html
Krassimir Petrov, Ph. D.
January 17, 2006

Abstract: the proposed Iranian Oil Bourse will accelerate the fall of the American Empire

II. Iranian Oil Bourse

The Iranian government has finally developed the ultimate "nuclear" weapon that can swiftly destroy the financial system underpinning the American Empire. That weapon is the Iranian Oil Bourse slated to open in March 2006. It will be based on a euro-oil-trading mechanism that naturally implies payment for oil in Euro. In economic terms, this represents a much greater threat to the hegemony of the dollar than Saddam's, because it will allow anyone willing either to buy or to sell oil for Euro to transact on the exchange, thus circumventing the U.S. dollar altogether. If so, then it is likely that almost everyone will eagerly adopt this euro oil system


The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target:
The Emerging Euro-denominated International Oil Marker
by William Clark
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html

The Iranians are about to commit an "offense" far greater than Saddam Hussein's conversion to the euro of Iraq’s oil exports in the fall of 2000. Numerous articles have revealed Pentagon planning for operations against Iran as early as 2005. While the publicly stated reasons will be over Iran's nuclear ambitions, there are unspoken macroeconomic drivers explaining the Real Reasons regarding the 2nd stage of petrodollar warfare - Iran's upcoming euro-based oil Bourse.
In 2005-2006, The Tehran government has a developed a plan to begin competing with New York's NYMEX and London's IPE with respect to international oil trades - using a euro-denominated international oil-trading mechanism. This means that without some form of US intervention, the euro is going to establish a firm foothold in the international oil trade. Given U.S. debt levels and the stated neoconservative project for U.S. global domination, Tehran's objective constitutes an obvious encroachment on U.S. dollar supremacy in the international oil market

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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:40 PM
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9. No. No. No. And No.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:43 PM
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10. Bill should be headed to 1600 Penn Ave to serve the arrest warrants
We'll need an acting head of state. He'll do just fine.

While you're at it, have Poppy arrested, also.
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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:57 PM
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11. He won't
He knows the issue isn't nukes. Its the oil bourse. He will go along to keep the dollar from sinking.
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