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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:13 PM
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Does anyone have a count? Yes/ No/ Undecided/ Unknown/ Predicted?
Who is certain and who is wavering? I just don't know where everything stands and it's making me nuts. How could anyone vote yes on Alito?

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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:23 PM
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1. After Roberts going against assisted deaths...........
if Alito gets in, anything remotely progressive is history. Keep pestering your reps..........and for all our sakes, hope this guy doesn't get the appointment.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:42 PM
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4. In a way, his vote was a really good thing. Let's hope it makes some
Senators think again.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:33 PM
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2. I do not know, but the pressure we are applying will have an impact.
K&R in hopes that someone might have an answer.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:40 PM
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3. Reid (in response to "will dems fillibuster question"): too early to know.
On PBS Newshour: said also that Dems have submitted a list of questions to Alito and they haven't gotten answers yet. And that the Dems want to take this seriously and make it a dignified process. He expressed concerns about Alito.

Sounds good to me! Keep on calling!
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:01 PM
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5. There has been no dignity in DC for 5 years. NO point in starting
now. Filibuster the creep and impeach the liar.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:11 PM
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6. This sounds GREAT to me!
We are having an impact...If it was all over, I think that he just would have said so.

:bounce:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:12 PM
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7. Put this in a separate post where it can be seen by more people!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:19 PM
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8. I think we can start with the Roberts vote and see who changes
Remember the vote on John Roberts to be Chief Justice? I'm only going to list the Dems who voted Yes and then the Dems who voted No and the so-called moderate Republicans.

Grouped By Vote (Yeah was a vote to confirm John Roberts as Chief Justice.)
Position YEAs (Dems and three moderate Repubs who might vote nay on Alito.)

Baucus (D-MT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Byrd (D-WV)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI) Moderate Repub
Collins (R-ME) Moderate Repub
Conrad (D-ND)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Feingold (D-WI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Snowe (R-ME) Moderate Repub
Wyden (D-OR)


NAYs ---22
Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)

Who comes in from the cold on the Yeah side and joins the good guys on this one?
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:48 AM
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9. Hey, TayTay! That's a great place to start! Thanks.
:applause:

There's also the Gang of 14 to consider. They're the ones who made the deal with Frist.
14 senators came together and defused what would have been a historical blowup. Under the agreement, the seven Republicans said they would not support Frist's "nuclear option." The seven Democrats agreed to no longer block three previously filibustered Bush nominees and pledged to consider the filibuster of future nominees only under "extreme circumstances." (The phrase "extreme circumstances" was never defined.)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5080836

I think Alito represents an "extreme circumstance," personally. I guess the trick with these senators will be to find out what matters to them and then use that to shape our emails and other communications with them to try to convince them to vote against Alito.

Here is a complete list of the Gang of 14, with contact info. (I've bolded the ones that also occur on the list you provided.):

Republicans:
Lincoln Chafee (RI) (202) 224-2921
Web Form: chafee.senate.gov/webform.htm

Susan Collins (ME) (202) 224-2523
http://collins.senate.gov/public/continue.cfm?FuseAction=ContactSenatorCollins.Email&CFID=39113496&CFTOKEN=99427497

Mike De Wine (OH) (202) 224-2315
Web Form: dewine.senate.gov

Lindsey Graham (SC) (202) 224-5972
Web Form: lgraham.senate.gov/index.cfm?mode=contact

John McCain (AZ) (202) 224-2235
Web Form: mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=Contact.Home

Olympia Snowe (ME) (202) 224-5344
Web Form: snowe.senate.gov/contact.htm

John Warner (VA) (202) 224-2023
Web Form: warner.senate.gov/contact/contactme.cfm

Democrats:
Robert Byrd (WV) (202) 224-3954
Web Form: byrd.senate.gov/byrd_email.html

Daniel Inouye (HI) (202) 224-3934
Web Form: inouye.senate.gov/webform.html

Mary Landrieu (LA) (202) 224-5824
Web Form: landrieu.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

Joseph Lieberman (CT) (202) 224-4041
Web Form: lieberman.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm?regarding=issue

Ben Nelson (NE) (202) 224-6551
Web Form: bennelson.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm

Mark Pryor (AR) (202) 224-2353
Web Form: pryor.senate.gov/contact/

Ken Salazar (CO) (202) 224-5852 email:
Web Form: salazar.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm

So, we probably ought to start with the bolded ones, and try to convince them that the Alito nomination is that "extreme circumstance" that would release them from their previous pledge not to support a fillibuster. What do others think of this plan of attack?

I tried another thread (didn't get much of a response) based on the Gang of 14, and it has a bit of background info about each Senator, here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2377058

But I think checking out each Senator's website, to see how each Senator really thinks about things and tying the argument we present to the individual's personal concerns may be an even better approach, for those who have the time. Here is a link to a general Senate page that lists each senator and has a link to their personal web pages: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:59 AM
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10. The GOP set-up this website:
which seems to be pretty comprehensive if you can hold your nose on the commentary:

http://www.gop.com/DemocratsonAlito/
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 03:18 AM
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11. That's a GREAT find, tritsofme!!! Thank you!
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 03:20 AM by Wordie
:yourock:

I took the liberty of posting your link in an Activist Corps thread about Alito (Crediting you for the great find, of course!)

How nice of those Repubs to do a lot of the legwork for us!

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