psyntist
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:22 AM
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Is there a way to turn Alito's pending confirmation into a Dem positive? |
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As best as I can read the tea leaves, this is a done deal. So the question is how can the Dems turn this into something positive for our side. Honestly, I have no idea at this point but I though it would be interesting to pose this question. Because, honestly the Dems have been forewarning about SCOTUS turning hard right and the fact that they would put a stop to it. I can hear people already grumbling. And any Dem that votes in favor of the obvious agenda driven mad man really needs to have their head examined. But is there a way to make this a positive for the Dems?
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:28 AM
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1. i'm not so sure this is a done deal |
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don't give up the ghost just yet.
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psyntist
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:31 AM
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3. I live in the Texas and gave up the ghost a long time ago on this matter |
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I certainly hope that everyone that has a voice in the Senate works their asses off to get a no vote. The two morons from Texas will vote yes no matter what the majority of people in Texas think. Not that they would really think on this matter anyway. So call, call call. But in the end, we may see the nuclear option pulled out, all hell break loose and Alito on the bench.
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:30 AM
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2. I agree that there won't be a filibuster |
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I'm not sure how to turn this into a positive. it all depends on what alito does on the SC in coming months. If he votes in the scalia/thomas mode, dems can probably use it as campaign fodder. Lots of folks are going to have a fit about the lack of filibuster, but I don't really see long term damage from the base.
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John Q. Citizen
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:55 AM
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11. Why do you assume there won't be a filibuster? What leads you |
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Thu Jan-19-06 10:00 AM
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such as Feingold saying this morning that he didn't think there would be one, (read it here on a post), Senator Leahy's speech today at GTU is being promoted on C-SPAN as a venue for his announcement on how he's going to vote, and the anouncements of Baucus, Mikulski and others that they will vote against him. Announcing how you're going to vote is in direct conflict with a filibuster.
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:34 AM
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4. When Roe gets overturned... |
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and white christian daddy's have to drive their pristine little daughters to a blue state to get an abortion, because she got knocked up by some black man, they might spend time on that drive wishing they voted for Kerry.
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:44 AM
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7. They won't overturn Roe |
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for years, if ever. Gut it, yes. Overturn it, highly doubtful.
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:34 AM
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5. ya,... blame the people that put bush in office. blame the religious |
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right for wanting there rule to become all of our law. blame bush..... and quit blaming the dems who dont have the power and the vote, and are not the responsible party for this appointment. it is all on the voters back when they voted 2004 for bush. they new this was going ot happen to the courts. we knew this was going to happen to the courts.
point the finger at every person that voted bush. let them own it
instead of threatening the democratic party that if they dont..... you walk
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psyntist
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:43 AM
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6. Are you talking to me? |
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I never threatened to walk and I do not blame the Dems. Is this an answer to the question?
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seabeyond
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:45 AM
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8. no i am not specifically talking to you. thank you for asking |
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Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 09:46 AM by seabeyond
i am refering to the many on this board that say, IF the dems allow this to happen, IF the dems confirm alito....... i am done with democratic party. i am not talking about you
and btw, if all dems or most all dems vote against alito, and he is confirmed, that does not = dems confirm. that makes no sense to me, but i heard that last night from a poster. talk about taking blame from responsible party and shifting onto the nonresponsible party
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:45 AM
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9. If the Dems vote as block against Alito, they can use the dancing Supremes |
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rulings against the repukes. Let's face it the dancing supremes are gonna dance to their master's calls. So when the Supremes rule against choice, the 4th amendment, legal protection from corporations, tax money to support religion, civil rights and in general turn the US into a corporate funded theocracy, the Dems can say we voted against this.
A show of warning like a filibuster, stopped only by rigging the rules in Congress, would also allow the Dems to say "I told you so, I tried to warn you."
Of course in the meantime our country will go to hell but do you see the middle class in mass doing anything about it? I think the majority of American citizens will grumble, yet still sit in front of their TVs and do noting about it, like they are doing now.
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:55 AM
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10. Well - if we are posting |
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to ourselves instead of calling faxing and emailing Senators there won't be a filibuster. Harry Reid bought us some time!!!!! He is holding them in line (except Nelson) so WE have enough time to flood the Senate with our demands for a filibuster.
They WANT to filibuster, but they have to know they would have support from us. The media would be brutal on them. And then there would be the nooo cu lar ization of the Senate by Frist and the shut-down of business as a response to that. They aren't going to start on that road unless they know for sure we will be there. And that we are there in vast numbers.
KEEP CALLING FAXING AND EMAILING - all of them - Repukes included.
It's the Constitution, Stupid. You are either for it or against it. Anyone who is for Alito is against the Constitution. He will not abandon his ardent support of the abomination we have come to know as the "Unitary Executive Theory" if seated on the Court, so he MUST NOT be seated.
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Thu Jan-19-06 11:54 AM
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13. Scalito is a fascist scumbag |
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no, there is no light here
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Thu Jan-19-06 11:59 AM
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14. that they are flexible enough to grab their ankles all the time? |
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