Great quote from Ben Franklin

[oldtime dfl_er]

"Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Naturally I had to turn it into a t-shirt.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/658059

[JuniperLea]

1. See my sig line

I think it deserves a shirt too:)

[oldtime dfl_er]

2. Oh man , that is great!

I'll do the tee this weekend. I also like this one from Thomas Paine: "It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry."

[rndmprsn]

3. fantastic...both quotes are really right on!

thanks for these...

[MannyGoldstein]

4. Some More Franklin Quotes

Some more Franklin quotes from my quote page:

"There never was a good war or a bad peace."

"Half the Truth is often a great Lie."

"In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other." - From his final address at the Constitutional Convention

"Here is my creed. I believe in one God, creator of the universe. That he governs it by his Providence. That he ought to be worshiped. That the most acceptable service we render to him is doing good to his other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental principles of all sound religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them.

As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals, and his religion, as he left them to us, the best the world ever saw, or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupting changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England some doubts as to his divinity; tho' it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the truth with less trouble. I see no harm, however, in its being believed, if that belief has the good consequence, as it probably has, of making his doctrines more respected and better observed; especially as I do not perceive that the Supreme takes it amiss, by distinguishing the unbelievers in his government of the world with any particular marks of his displeasure."

[MannyGoldstein]

5. And A Torture Quote By Patrick Henry

"They may introduce the practice of France, Spain, and Germany--of torturing, to extort a confession of the crime. They will say that they might as well draw examples from those countries as from Great Britain, and they will tell you that there is such a necessity of strengthening the arm of government, that they must have a criminal equity, and extort confession by torture, in order to punish with still more relentless severity. We are then lost and undone." - Patrick Henry

[omega minimo]

6. "Despotism...when the people...become so corrupted as to need despotic"

"...can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other."

[oldtime dfl_er]

7. "Half the Truth is often a great Lie."

Good one.