MissWaverly
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:37 AM
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Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 11:38 AM by MissWaverly
This was a tag shown on the screen during ABC's This Week: Again the mantra, the Democrats are weak on security by arguing that warrantless wiretaps are illegal, when we need to go after the terrorists, then showing Rove repeatedly saying things like the Democrats don't get national security issues. I get National Security, I understand releasing the name of a covert agent endangers our intelligence gathering capabilities. I want the real CIA boots on the ground protected. I do not condone rationales that permit someone listening in to the local Girl Scout's meeting or other innocent US citizens w/o a warrant.
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:40 AM
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1. Well, Kerry just proved that's a lie on the same show. nt |
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:43 AM
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3. The media is leaning heavily towards it's okay |
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It's for national security, I think this whole attitude is a dangerous one. It reminds me of the Swift Boat campaign. We are either a nation based on laws or we are not. If George Bush and his minions have unlimited power to obtain their objective of "fighting terrorism" then we have a monarchy not a democracy.
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:45 PM
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The MSM have been kowed by the Bush admin since day 1. They've seen Fox grab market-share and advertising dollars at their expense and they are incapable of coutering their slide in to irrelevancy. The MSM is just marking time. In short order there will be Fox and the blogosphere: Fox as the official organ of WH propaganda and the Blogosphere speaking truth to power.
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:49 PM
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12. I am waiting for Fox to be tied into the scandal |
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especially since they make the news as well as report it, like reporting George had won Florida in 2000, when he hadn't.
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:43 AM
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2. Rove's War on Terror strategy for 2006 |
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Possible bumper stickers:
War on terror a failure - OBL still a threat - Iraq now has Al Queda.
War on terror a failure - OBL still alive - Al Queda growing.
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Sun Jan-22-06 11:45 AM
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anyone leaks name of CIA agent is a threat to NSA
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:01 PM
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5. Oh, I don't think we know the half of what's being done to us here. |
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The fact that Rove, who is under investigation for treason, and was plainly part of conspiracy to destroy the CIA's entire counter-proliferation network, is permitted any air time to speak on "national security," and is taken at all seriously, and is still in the White House, and has not been tarred and feathered and run out of our nation's capitol on a rail, is the problem. It is mind-bogglingly outrageous that he is even permitted to speak on this issue without howls of laughter from the U.S. press corps, even if they are Bush junta lapdogs.
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:12 PM
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7. Rove should be indicted |
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Guess, what Republicans, we know all about post-9-11 and you better start running on your record and not some fear rhetoric. I don't care if there is an OBL tape every night, if he comes here, we will fight him here. But we will fight every day to live in a free democracy and not a police state with unlimited power to an administration that is not reality based.
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:09 PM
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6. We shouldn't blame the media on this... |
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...this will be the meme out of the White House this year - that much is certain. We need to find a way to respond to this. The media are just repeating the GOP line.
The problem is that Democratic leaders become so defensive on the issue. They want to prove to the Washington "insiders" that "we are as strong as the Republicans." But this is entirely the wrong approach, since we are basically conceding that the Republicans ARE STRONG and we ARE WEAK. That's the problem.
We have to shift the dynamic all together and attack the Republicans for being weak on Defense/terrorism...for letting bin Laden get away, for wasting our time and energy in Iraq, for using NSA spying to spy on domestic opponents.
We need to show how ineffective the Republicans have actually been - how they use terrorism for nothing more than political reasons, meanwhile undermining US national security.
How we will disengage in Iraq, rebuild our alliances and refocus on bin Laden and terrorism itself.
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:14 PM
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8. We need to shove their own record back at them |
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I am sick of their pre-emptive strategies, let's deal with their record.
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:40 PM
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9. Loved Sam Donaldson's line about no outrage on calling Murtha a coward |
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He said that that was broadcast for a week afterward now was it?
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Sun Jan-22-06 12:47 PM
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11. I am not sure but Cheney quoted these colors don't run in Iraq |
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he rec'd one lone wolf whistle in reply. I do like Sam Donaldson, he said that if Sen. Clinton ran against Sen. McCain, he would come out of retirement to cover it. He was the only one that was not mouthing the mantra Democrats are weak on national security, this year will be another replay of 2000 and 2002, they wish.
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