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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 03:17 PM Original message |
Abolish the Electoral College System if You Want Your Vote to Count |
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sirjohn (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm no scholar...Constitutional ammendment required? |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Well.. consider this |
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droidamus (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. agree but |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. We have to Both at the same time, and we can. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. There were just as many non voters in 2004 as there were in 1972 |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Good question, That's what Water Gate was about.. |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. It will never happen.... |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Impossible. Any 13 states can block a constitutional amendment. NT |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. There may not be 13 to oppose it. n/t |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Count the number of states with 3 or 4 electoral votes |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. The party leadership would resist, true |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 09:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Imagine that you are a voter in a little state. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Imagine Those were the states who were the first to demand Abololishing |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 08:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Show me how that would be in their interest. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Never said it was easy, this is hard |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. Related Thread ... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. Abolish BBV machines if you want to make your vote count. |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
12. I am all for it but I am also all for a lot of things that have virtually |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 07:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I would only ask that you keep an open mind, and try to imagine |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 11:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. trust me I am open minded about it and I do consider it a more |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 01:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I understand. Just the filibuster is unlikely.. we will move forward one |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-22-06 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. What's the argument against actual run-off elections |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 01:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. I agree, Instant Recall would have saved us Much Grief in 2000 and 2004 |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
22. Strike Out IRV! Choose Cloneproof Schwartz Sequential Dropping (CSSD) |
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win_in_06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
24. In order to overturn the EC smaller states would have to vote themselves |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 01:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Proportional Representation Gives Smaller Groups a Voice |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
25. True, but it still may be swallowed by Diebold. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. We have to abolish both |
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Max Cherry (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-23-06 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
29. I agree.... |
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