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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:35 PM
Original message
If you use Yahoo: STOP NOW!!!
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 10:36 PM by CrackpotAmerica
<snip>

Americas


Times Online January 20, 2006


http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,226473,00.jpg
Yahoo's logo in China, where it has been criticized for breaching the privacy of its users


Yahoo admits it let White House access its databases
By Jenny Booth and agencies


Yahoo has admitted that it granted the US Government access to its search engine's databases this summer, as a battle develops over the right to privacy in cyberspace.

Google, by contrast, promised last night to fight vigorously the Bush Administration’s demand to know what millions of people have been looking up on the internet.

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rest here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2002169,00.html

Use Google from now on... This is a great opportunity to show your opposition by hitting loyalist companies where it counts:

IN THEIR WALLET

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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:40 PM
Response to Original message
1. Moderator:
Sorry, I accidently posted this in politics..

If it doesn't meet the criteria, please feel free to move it..

Whoopsie :)
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:44 PM
Response to Original message
2. plus: Yahoo! CEO Terry Semel is a Bush 2004 donor
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Nice Catch!
Thank you for posting..
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #2
19. Wow! Talk about buying access to politicians!
How the hell do us little folks get something we want?

I guess that's why all the rich got all those tax breaks on the back of us little/poor folk.
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:48 PM
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4. I heard MSN and AOL also gave access.
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 10:49 PM by GrumpyGreg
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Yea.. I would expect that of them.
That's why I have a Mac. (among other reasons!)

Also, that's why whenever I get an AOL disk in the mail, I call to complain and demand they remove me from the list.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. How does having a Mac help?
I have one too. Are we protected from this spying somehow?
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. Hmm...
It gives Microsoft the least amount of money possible:

http://www.iwar.org.uk/news-archive/2005/06-14-2.htm

It never crashes.

I never get viruses.

I never have to toy around with the regristry if there is a problem because Macs are so advanced that they don't use a registry..

.... and so forth and so on..
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. Yes I know all that
But mine did crash a couple years ago. And it cost me exactly $25 to get it fixed.

I was wondering what the connection between the Yahoo search and Mac is.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. No connection:
Scroll up to the post by President Jesus..

That's what I was talking about..
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:22 AM
Response to Reply #14
28. Mac are going Intel now, so things will change
for the worst. Core Duo = crap. My 2 cents.
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:21 AM
Response to Reply #11
27. No.
You are just not as likely a target for the general stuff floating around there, attacking people at random. Windows beasties are simply the most common and reported.

If someone on the Internet wants into your system badly enough, the only way to protect yourself for sure is to disconnect your box from the Internet.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:53 PM
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6. Great post
And I just had this thought. I'm uninstalling yahoo messenger and turning my yahoo accounts into spam bins. There's absolutely no way that I will use yahoo after this.
I'm also thinking about writing software to block Yahoo Slurp, which is how their site indexes web pages. It wouldn't be hard to make something in PHP that looks for this domain name on incoming requests and puts up a page that says why yahoo is being blocked instead of the content yahoo is trying to index. People could choose to integrate it into their site.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. That sounds like a great Idea..
Keep us posted, would you?

I would be interested in using that..

THX!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #6
59. Screw Yahoo...! it's not as good/fast as Google anyway
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:55 PM
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7. I have no problem with any means to stop child porn.
Does anyone want to defend that practice?

Didn't think so.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. That is a warranted and judicially cleared practice..
that uses specific keywords.

It goes through the gamut of the legal system and is monitored by various levels of corporate and government agencies..

What the latter is is domestic random spying.

They are two completely different things. Where one is correct, planned, legitimate and necessary to prevent crime, the other is a crime in itself.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Yeah, we could probably stop all crime by
tap every phone, monitoring every e-mail, inserting computer tracking chips into every citizens' dermis, and agreeing to random strip-searches 24/7. Let's DO IT! Stalin's RUssia was such a great place to live.

:eyes:
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:19 AM
Response to Reply #7
24. You could also stop child porn by.....
Just killing everyone under the age of 18. Do you want to defend that idea?

Didn't think so.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #7
25. This issue has nothing to due with child porn!
It's about censoring the web to supposedly prevent children from viewing porn.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:26 AM
Response to Reply #7
26. Er, what makes you think that that's the objective?
Because it's the "official" story? Like WMDs in Iraq?

Google "12 year old girls" and see what pops up. Now if they were serious about stopping child porn, why the f*ck is all that sick shit still out there???

So called "random" searches won't help as much as going straight to the bloody source!
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #26
63. Ok, if we googled what you said...
Boom! Thought crime - they found what they are looking for. A concerned adult who votes dem.

Oh I meant a pedophile.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #7
29. "Any means" to stop child porn. Like if a screen name with the word
"john" in it made one a person of interest, complete with federal charges? That's "any means". MKJ
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Tari Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #7
31. Stopping child porn is not a priority. Check out this list of fine,
upstanding members of the moral, conservative party. Lots of sex crimes involving children.

http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Moral_Values#Specific_examples,_in_alphabetical_order

What a bunch of hypocrites. You were very proud of yourself when posing the question "Does anyone want to defend that practice?", weren't you. "Hah", you said when typing it "got 'em now".

There are laws in place for dealing with internet crime & child pornography.

Happy surfing, sirjohn.
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. Sex predators are more interested in their crimes
than politics.

They come from all walks of society. I don't see it as a political issue, and I doubt whether they do either, except for the politics of sex laws.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #31
44. love that list from kos! n/t
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #7
32. Leave your house unlocked when you go to work tomorrow
We need to have a little look-see to make sure you are on the up-and-up. To stop child pornography, of course. You don't want to defend that practice, do you? Didn't think so.



Thanks.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #7
35. Really? ANY means? How's about the porn-police breaking down
your door, dismantling your home, questioning your co-workers, and throwing you in Gitmo 'til they determine you HAVEN'T commited a crime?? You all right with THAT?
Didn't think so.
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #35
36. Not worried about that. I'll invite them in, they won't
have to break down the door.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. *knock knock*
"why hello, officer"
"hello citizen. i need to come in"
"right this war, sir"
"it appears you have been posting on a known terrorist message board called DU. You're going to Gitmo"
"what? how is this legal?"
"(to officer outside) release the dogs"
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #36
45. But the other stuff is okay, right? Riiight? Didn't think so. n/t
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #45
51. Projection.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #51
54. Non sequitur. n/t
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Tari Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #54
57. Do you think he knows how to use a dictionary?
I can't help myself. I keep checking this thread to see what he's going to say next.

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. LOL..You are totally right; yet somehow, I just can't stop myself either!
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #58
61. Google/China?
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sirjohn Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #57
60. Curious as to what you think of Google/China news
today.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #7
43. I don't either
I DO, however, have problems with people parroting bullshit RW reasons for spying on anyone that Commander ShitForBrains thinks is a "threat."

Think the Quakers had any porn at their church?

Didn't think so.

Now go and help mommy make dinner.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #7
48. Ever hear of parental controt? Didn't think so!
What amazes me is how this country, and especially rightwingers who are forever screaming about 'personal responsibilty' can't control their own kids activities. No child in this house will get near a computer unless an adult knows what's going on. It's not that DIFFICULT.

The fear factor, 'ohhh, we must spy on you for you own good'. Well, if you can't control what your kids are doing, that's YOUR problem ~ and you're free to invite the government into your life if that's what you want.

Let's make a deal. All those parents who have abdicated their duty, can call Big Brother and ask him to please take over. The rest can simply say, 'thanks, but we don't need your baby-sitting services, we have the situation under control in this house.'

Parents are so disrespected in this country.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #7
50. Sorry if some of the other posts were mean..
I disagree with you, but that's what it's all about..
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:58 PM
Response to Original message
9. What do I do with my 3 years of e-mail stored at Yahoo?
:shrug:
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. I'm not sure..
Maybe you can contact them and have your files removed?

sorry :)
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #9
39. yes, that's my question too
AND i have five email accounts on yahoo going back about 10 years!
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:03 PM
Response to Original message
13. I just canceled all my yahoo! accounts
Switched to google mail and will only use google to search.
here is the link to cancel your yahoo! account.
https://edit.yahoo.com/config/delete_user

No one is going to spy on me if I have anything to do about it
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. Good for you!
eom
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mikeybabe125 Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:22 PM
Response to Original message
20. Yahoo is very insecure anyways...
Back a few years ago, somehow I got hacked by a group of prisoners and they thought they were talked to me and I wasn't.

Many people imed me and thought I was someone else they knew. Very screwy system. More importantly, we can take power, and not support criminals.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:30 PM
Response to Original message
21. I'm off to bed, friends...
I have to get up early and work on my website or else I'm a gonna go right out of business..

Please spread the word about this..

Thx!
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:45 AM
Response to Original message
22. The Administration is hiding behind the unassailable shield of fighting...
...child abuse to implement wide-ranging snooping.

Once they obtain the records using this ruse, I predict:

1. They keep them forever
2. Use the records for data mining whatever they want to data mine
3. Hardly do anything, if anything, to fight child porn and abuse

Watch and see how much this is used to help in the fight against child predators online.

If you see nothing in the next year done to advance the cause of child protection using these files, you'll know we've been had...again.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #22
33. I wish we could reverse the "tacking on" of hidden agendas to Bills NT
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:18 AM
Response to Original message
23. this is so pathetic of Yahoo!!!!
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LoKnLoD Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
30. If anyone wants
a google email account (gmail.com) pm me and I will send you an invite, I have 15 left.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:59 PM
Response to Original message
37. Thanks for the info! Just created a google (gmail) account instead.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. you have to be invited for a gmail account
can you send me an invite?:)
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. Actually, they've given us an easy way around that!
You can have them send an "invitation" to your cell phone and use the 6-digit code that they send you to sign up. I started the process and got my code, but haven't finished it yet because they have NO variation of my name that I can use (which is odd, because my first name is very uncommon). If that doesn't work for you, let me know and once I come up with a user name later this afternoon I can send you an invite!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #41
46. great, i'll do that
thanks for the info! :hi:
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:43 PM
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42. i'm beginning to enjoy searches like "bush sucks" and "bush is crazy."
then when yahoo turns my records over to the administration, they'll know exactly how i feel about them.

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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 06:59 PM
Response to Original message
47. Yes, I stopped yohooing when I saw that they gave in to b***;
F'em I say. Yahoo sucks!
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 10:14 PM
Response to Original message
49. Thanks Everyone, This thread is about to expire:
Please keep this in mind in the future:

There is currently another thread by DoctorMyEyes about Yahoo's problems. You can find it here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=221250&mesg_id=221250

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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:08 AM
Response to Original message
52. I use yahoo to research plumbing fixtures and fittings all day at
work. If Agent Mike want to go through my data, he says in the "pot" where he belongs. Spying fascist.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:11 AM
Response to Original message
53. Yahoo sucks...been that way for years...
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 08:19 AM by zulchzulu


I've gotten so much spam due to them selling my email when you sign on newsgroups...blech.
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MANFRA Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 11:55 AM
Response to Original message
55. Yahoo doesn't believe in Free Speech either
It was also reported that Yahoo has been deleting accounts of people who made critical statements of the movie 'BrokeBack Mountain' on Yahoo Group forums.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 11:57 AM
Response to Original message
56. Google
Most of my searches are done on Google. After I saw this story on Friday I was glad that I used Google to do my searches.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:31 PM
Response to Original message
62. I just got an evil idea
Since nearly no one here was likely using yahoo in these google days, why not start using Yahoo? Then we go to really sicko reich-wing sites to give them tons of work and cause the freeper sites problems... I bet their nuke-tronic super-spooky predator spyware works about as good as their spin-tyrant. LOL
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 12:29 AM
Response to Original message
64. ttt n/t
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oldgrowth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 09:28 AM
Response to Original message
65. This is not about porn it's about control and
Getting sheepple use to being spyed on , we will do it and you will get use to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bdot Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 07:36 AM
Response to Original message
66. I'll stop using Yahoo once a better search engine is created.
Until then, I'll keep using Yahoo.
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