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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 10:58 PM
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How can the reality be so differently interpreted?
We see George Bush as an illiterate and incompetent boob and worse. Others see him as as strong president, doing a real good job at protecting America from evil forces meant to do us harm. We see George Bush as a lying, Elmer-Gantry type person, using the divide and conquer strategy to pit one American against another. Others see him as an honest and moral man, with strong principles. How can we look at the same man and the same circumstances surrounding us and see something so totally different?
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:02 PM
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1. Brainwashing. n/t
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:02 PM
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2. Trust me on this...
....those really open-minded of us down here in Texas, who had to deal with his junk philosophies as governor, KNOW the truth! It is always his goosestepping, SS leaders and the Hitl...oops...Bush Youth that carry that crap on, and lie about it enough to make it seem true.
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Serenades Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:05 PM
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3. sdfgfddfg
It's not so much that reality is being interpreted differently but is simple partisan thoughts dictating your view of the world. The only reason repubs like GWB is because he has an R by his name. If there were a D by his name and all the events unfolded over the last six years then you'd see Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh and all those guys talk about how much of an idiot we have for a president.

People are more blind to their partisan philosophies than you think. It's astonishing.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:08 PM
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4. Well that's true for
basically anything. One man's Manifest Destiny, is another's mass genocide. That's the story of human history.

How is it possible? Enough (overall powerless) people that just like kicking ass? To be on the winning team for once?

It's a good question, which deserves multiple books. All I can say, in a simple way, is that it's what we do.
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thatsrightimirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:10 PM
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5. Because the coroporations
Which own the media love this President
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:13 PM
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6. Bu both realities cannot be true??
Sooner or later, one of them must hit the wall and be proven false, would it not?
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msatty99 Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:19 PM
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7. Because this isn't really happening
I think whats going on is I am having a bad dream. I am going to
wake up, it'll be November 7, 2000 and Gore will win the election.

It has all been a surreal nightmare since then. It has to be a dream and
all you people are probably...like, ok, uhmmm...a fly buzzing around my
wife's nightlight.

Wow. Will she laugh when she hears all the crazy stuff I am dreaming
about.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:22 PM
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8. But when you awaken....
and see that the room is cold and bare and nothing is like it was when you went to sleep, you will pinch yourself to see if you are truly awake...
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msatty99 Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:30 PM
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11. C'mon..... AS IF we could really let ourselves be scared into
.... preemptively invading a foreign nation and killing hundreds or
thousands of innocent people

or..(this is really funny) that we could have been attacked by one
kidney impaired, 6 foot four rich arab and then, with the whole power
wealth and technological resources let such a guy sit back and laugh at
us... or...oh, god, EVERYTHING that is supposedly happening...

its too insane to be real.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:31 PM
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12. It's unreal...
ain't it? :)
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msatty99 Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:37 PM
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13. Hey Kentuck, here's a good one...
that the whitehouse says "we do not torture"

the same year that we see horrible nightmares from Abu Ghraib in
color photographs that are beyond dispute...

and then, the whitehouse lobbies against a bill to specify that we
will not torture.

See...it has to be a bad dream I am having. Ok, I bet it was that
spicy pizza I ate.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:42 PM
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14. And after a while, after so many lies....
we will not know if we are asleep or awake? They tell us we are awake but it seems like a dream?? Who can you trust??
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:23 PM
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9. It varies
Some people are plain ignorant either out of laziness or by choice. Others have been indoctrinated or brainwashed by people in their lives (this is particularly true of young people who have grown up in sheltered lives where their only influences are parents, fundie churches and other RW influences). These are the people who are likely to see GWB as a righteous man on a mission from God. In another forum I used to frequent one sycophant described Boosh as "standing tall and proud like a tree". I could just imagine him having a shrine to the guy in his home and paying reverence every night before bedtime. :puke:.

Then there are those who acknowledge, at least to some extent, the crimes and misdeeds of Dumbya, but claim that they are justified for one reason or another. Georgie lied? Well if he did it was all in the name of protecting the nation. He used illegal wiretaps? Well don't you know there's terrorists and a war going on? Recess appointments? That's because those evil Dems will never approve anyone he nominates!

While some have finally tired of his shenanigans as he continues to push the envelope, and renounced their support of him, there will be those who support him to the bloody end. :shrug:




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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:27 PM
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10. I think one part of it is in the need to identify with someone who
makes you feel safe.

And buy into the delusion that you are safe by virtue of his leadership.

Every dictator who rose to power has employed or benefited from that human tendency.

{:o{|
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:44 PM
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15. Creepily enough I think I understand it.
Every once in awhile, when I'm tired and overworked, my brain does a momentary lurch and I momentarily go into denial of everything I know. In that 2-3 second moment, all the lying statements they make suddenly hang together and fit quite congruently with my historic trust in the government. In the last millisecond of the momentary dislcoation, I find myself thinking "that makes perfect sense." That thought is so joltingly shocking that I immediately lurch back to my senses. But in that moment, I believe I experience the lulling sense of "the way it is" that most of the non-freeper, non-political types in this country feel all the time. It's a feeling that could easily lull anybody who wasn't particularly partisan and didn't care for politics into turning their attention to the pressing matters of day to day life.

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msatty99 Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 11:45 PM
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16. To answer your question straight up
I think it is the difference between people who have an 'open' mind
and those who have a 'narrow mind'.

I think that George Bush himself thinks he is a good man.
I think that the people who see him that way honestly think
he is a good man. They simply filter all the contrary evidence
as MSM propoganda.

I do think reality will hit the wall.

We will all pay for their narrowmindedness
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