Bush seems to be winning the spygate war with Congress.

[cantstandbush]

He is using the bully pulpit effectively in quoting Hayden as saying had the domestic wiretapping been in use in 2001 9/11 could have been prevented. With no one to challenge him it is a persuasive argument even though he is lying through his teeth. 9/11 could have been prevented if the Bushbots had heeded the Clinton administration's warnings and had they not been so busy trying to undo all that Clinton admin had done including the Hart security findings. The MSM is giving Bush all the time he needs and every talk show is loaded with Bushbots with very few dissenters. They are shameless.

[DemInDistress]

1. guess those gopers know america will be hit again and not

to worry for martial law is on the menu...

[sasha031]

2. people disappearing

hide away camps,...maybe we can call our neighbors south of the border and ask them what it was like.

[cry baby]

3. don't buy the spin.

I think it's an uphill battle to fight against the * cult and the corporate media, but we, the people, don't like the intrusion. I live in a very red area and no one I've talked to thinks that * spying on us is legal.

[Doctor_J]

10. BUt it's just a matter of time

give hate radio a couple more weeks and they'll be saying that spying is just great.

[cry baby]

11. Wrong - see this kos post with poll #s - they are in our favor

and getting better:http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/1/25/142242/534

[Doctor_J]

14. Then why can't we do a fucking thing about it?

Can you please name me one thing that Smirk hasn't gotten in 5 years? Polls in our favor and $2.00 will get me a basic coffee at Starbuck's. These polls mean absoultely nothing when Scalito is being swept onto SCOTUS. There is nothing like denial to make a shit sandwich taste llike prime rib.

[cry baby]

15. Are you giving up?

I'm not, we are the minority and things aren't going to move in our direction quickly. More dems are speaking out now than in years past. People are listening.

I'm doing everything I can to make the reversal in attitudes happen. I am not going to give in to the media spin on how "muddled" and "without a message" and "squishy" the dems are. Go ahead, buy the spin if you want to, believe Tweety and Wolfie if you wish.

You can say that I am in denial, but I see attitudes changing in my very red area. I see it with my own eyes and that can't be denied.

BTW, I am going to be mad as hell if the dems don't filibuster. That doesn't mean that I will abandon the party or give up.

[Doctor_J]

19. People are listening?

Do you have your imaginary TV turned on? We don't have any media presence. The people in your very red area will do whatever hate radio tells them to do. Do you really think they will vote Dem in November? in 2008?

The first thing we need to do IF we are to stage any sort of revival is to start confronting reality. That is that

1. We are in a majority in the country
2. We hae absolutely NO say in how it is governed.

[Javaman]

4. And now that it appears as if our Democratic Senators....

aren't going to filibuster scalito, it give moron* carte blanche to do as he pleases. The repubes will translate the none filibuster into a free ride for moron* and his need to listen to all of our calls.

So with Abu gonzalez, goosestepper roberts and now the carbon cutout scalito, what next does the empire of evil have in store for us?

Folks, if we keep depending upon these Democratic Senators to do our biding as a nation, we will be slowly and surely stripped of all of our rights.

I can't say this strong enough, this is why scalito needs NEEDS, to be filibustered. It has so less to do with scalito himself, but it has everything to do with the future of our country. This one man represents all that is loathsome about moron* and his bullying tactics. If this guy gets through expect the SCOTUS to give jackass* everything he wants to be king, dictator, potentate, etc, what ever the hell he wishes to call himself, before his term is out and we have him as presidenti permanenti.

[Doctor_J]

9. It won't be slowly

Allowing the unfit Scalito onto the court will pretty much signify that the white flag has been raised - * will have no opposition to whatever he proposes.

FWIW, the GOP will keep the Dems around to have someone to blame when their schemes prove disastrous.

[driver8]

17. If our senators won't fight for us, what can we do? It seems to

me that we are at a huge disadvantage with no one looking out for us.

I get so discouraged watching this dipshit shrub get everything handed to him on a silver platter. If any president in history deserves to get nothing -- it is jr.

We need our Reps and Senators to fight for us; they need to speak up and speak up now!! I don't think the country can wait any longer.

[katsy]

5. of course he is...

why shouldn't he?

When did the Democrats ever stand up to him (minus Conyers, Kuchinich, Pelosi) and fight to win?

I'm so sick of washington and their hand-picked, out-of-touch, inbred have mores posing as representatives of the people.

[AtomicKitten]

6. Hayden also misquoted the Fourth Amendment.

Clearly these folks have no clue about either the law or the constitution and, as far as I know, ignorance of the law is no excuse.

The Dems need to keep hammering the illegality of the warrant-less wiretapping regardless of the lame melodramatic excuses for doing it.

[coldiggs]

7. ya and I heard on CNN that polls are in his favor right now

[cry baby]

16. no - this poll on KOS is a CNN/Gallup poll

the numbers are moving our way:http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/1/25/142242/534

[wtmusic]

8. Ha! So now they're saying Clinton DIDN'T use illegal wiretaps

it's all up to Specter. Don't let America down, Arlen.

[gratuitous]

12. Since the Senate isn't beginning its investigation for another three weeks

It may be premature to declare a winner in this "war." Just like it would be premature to speculate on who's going to win a baseball game while the leadoff hitter for the visting team is still batting.

[jenmito]

13. Dan Abrams said that statement is an insult to our intelligence. n/t

[KansDem]

18. This is utter BULLSHIT!

Bush AUTHORIZED illegal spying BEFORE 9/11:

The National Security Agency advised President Bush in early 2001 that it had been eavesdropping on Americans during the course of its work monitoring suspected terrorists and foreigners believed to have ties to terrorist groups, according to a declassified document.

........

James Risen, author of the book State of War and credited with first breaking the story about the NSA's domestic surveillance operations, said President Bush personally authorized a change in the agency's long-standing policies shortly after he was sworn in in 2001.

"The president personally and directly authorized new operations, like the NSA's domestic surveillance program, that almost certainly would never have been approved under normal circumstances and that raised serious legal or political questions," Risen wrote in the book. "Because of the fevered climate created throughout the government by the president and his senior advisers, Bush sent signals of what he wanted done, without explicit presidential orders" and "the most ambitious got the message."



http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/printer_011306Z.shtml

Considering that Clinton advised Bush that al Qaeda was the most important terrorist issue of the day, the question put to Bush should be: "Who or what the Hell were you spying on prior to 9/11 if you weren't monitoring al Qaeda terrorists?"

I simply can't believe that Bush would authorize illegal domestic spying and NOT have stopped the 9/11 attacks!

It might also explain why he did nothing when told by Andy Card about the attacks: he already knew they were coming!!!

WHY CAN'T ANYONE SEE THIS!!!