Exactly why I have problems with Begala and Carville: Putting down Dems

[jsamuel]

to make a point to try to support Dems.

They just don't do it right.

Tonight on "The Colbert Report", Begala told Colbert that "the Dems were too weak to bribe anyway." Why did he say that? Was that really needed? Couldn't he have just said that "no Dems took any money from Abramoff?"

They put them down all the time. They say they are spinless, weak, and stupid then act like they are advocating for us...

Then you wonder why the media repeats those same exact lines over and over again...

[jus_the_facts]

1. it's all entertainment....ala "circus maximus*.....

:nopity:

[Kurovski]

2. Victim humor.

A failed message all-around.

[sandnsea]

3. I'll tell you why

Because that's what they hear on the blogosphere and they think repeating it will convince the bloggers that they're listening and are in tune to the problems of the party. Then they think they're going to reel us all in and we won't notice that they use rubber worms for bait.

[EST]

4. Could it be--because it's true?

In the current atmosphere, with one party government, where there is no dem in charge of anything, where most of the dems are practically indistinguishable from Rs, where not only are the Ds powerless, they (like the judas goat) attempt to derive a little reflected glow by toadying up to the gestapo, is it any wonder that so many of those who do have a voice would try to insult the dem leaders into doing something, anything, even if it's wrong?
Both major parties are republican-at the levels where it matters-and they have conspired to eliminate any chance that a viable third (or fourth) party might challenge the status quo. I find it insulting and disturbing that assholes of the Begala or Carville caliber can be seen as the anointed representatives of the millions of us who, truth be known, if we had a real choice, would scorn either party and claim allegiance to something totally different, like, maybe, The Party of Telling the plain Truth all the Time, or The We really do Care About people because we are they party. There is simply no way at present to oppose the parties of slimy and slimier.

[Rose Siding]

5. Begala's been attacking dems since the 2000 DeLay RICO suit

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First: what happened to the suit? After DeLay and his co-defendants attempted but failed to obtain a quick dismissal, the case was settled, with DeLay offering a representation that organizations within his network would not raise and spend $25 million in undisclosed, improperly raised funds on the 2000 Congressional elections. In filing the suit, DCCC had made clear its intent to prevent DeLay’s use of extortionate fundraising and sham tax-exempts to establish a shadow political operation able to function outside existing rules and law. Once that purpose was fulfilled, the further prosecution of the suit was unnecessary. And the organizations in question did not figure prominently in the 2000 elections.
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Nothing better illustrated the "mainstream" response than an op-ed published in the Times by well-known Democratic consultant and cable talk show host Paul Begala. "Democrats Play the Vengeance Game," The New York Times (May 10, 2000) at 31. Begala administered a high-minded rebuke of the DCCC, opening his piece with the categorical conclusion that the suit was "wrong, ethically, legally and politically." For him, this was merely a replay of the insidious partisanship displayed by Republicans during the Clinton era, and he called upon "those who decried the abuse of the legal system for partisan ends" to recognize their "moral obligation" and to "condemn the legal pursuit of Mr. DeLay." He offered that he had no use for DeLay’s tactics, but that he knew them not to be criminal, which was rather beside the point in a piece about a civil suit. Begala insisted all the same that the remedy for DeLay’s conduct was properly left to a vigilant press and to the voters.

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