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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:27 AM
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Great quote read on cspan this AM!
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate, and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Ceasar."

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It was read by a caller when Molly Ivans was on. Se said there is a lot of debate on wether Ceasar really said this, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that IT'S TRUE!

I really do think that's what this administration has done, and why so many people are accepting the loss of their rights!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:31 AM
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1. He said it in Shakespeare's play. That counts!
:)
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 01:38 PM
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6. It's not in Shakespeare's play, either
It's a modern passage, apparently.

Here's a discussion:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/dubiousquotes/a/caesar_quote.htm
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:20 PM
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7. You're right! I sat here and tried to remember what scene that was
and couldn't and assumed I was just senile. But, I've gone through the concordance and it ain't there!
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:46 AM
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2. I heard that, too!
I have that one saved in my computer along with some quotes by Nazis and the Founders regarding the same thing.

These kind of quotes come in handy for writing LTTE's.

My favorites:

"We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-- in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of LIBERAL excess during the past years." - Adolf Hitler

"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland."
-- Adolf Hitler, proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.

"Naturally, the common people don't want war ... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, 53the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. "

Hermann Goering president of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

This one is my absolute fave:

"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home."
-- James Madison.

This usually shuts up the neofacist traitor Bush bootlickers.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:39 PM
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3. All of these are great. How can we get the average public to
hear them and HEAR who SAID them????

I get so frustrated that even some of my Dem friends live in the dark! I spent 3 hours over the holidays explaining PNAC to 2 of my Dem. relatives who had NEVER HEARD OF IT!!!!!
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:47 PM
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5. Put them on flyers and distribute
Write letters to your local paper and include these quotes.

Call radio shows and read them
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:41 PM
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4. thanks - great quotes
some good ammunition for LTTEs!
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