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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:12 PM
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Suppose Roe v. Wade were overturned.
What do you think the legal status of abortion would be in your state?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:13 PM
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1. No abortion
Not for rape, incest, or even to keep a woman alive. I live in Arkansas.
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:15 PM
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4. Bingo.
Amazing. For a state where 3 out of the 4 congressional districts + both Senators are Democrats, this state sure is red.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:28 PM
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It's quite simple to explain why there are a lot of Democrats in office.
People vote Democratic out of habit in Arkansas. Look at the results of all but the top two statewide races. In all those "nothing" races, the races that get no coverage like State Auditor, and Commissioner of State Lands, the Democratic candidate got 60% of the vote.

Why? Nobody pays attention to those races. Voters just pick the party they consider themselves to be a member of and, as in much of the South, most voters still consider themselves to be Democrats.

In most other races - the races people do pay attention to - who wins hinges on a combination of elements, two of them being name recognition and personality. It's no coincidence that one of our Senators is named Pryor and our lieutenant governor is named Rockefeller.

And don't let's assume that a Democrat in Arkansas is as liberal as, say, a Democrat in the Northeast. They may both be political lions, certainly, but one was raised as a lion and the other was raised as a kitten.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:51 PM
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21. Too true
I still say Charlie Daniels keeps getting reelected because people confuse him with the singer.

And let's not forget that Blanche Lincoln is anti-choice.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:27 PM
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10. I don't see Connecticut overturning it
though you never know. Some of the fundies have made their way here too. They are like vermin, spreading everywhere.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:14 PM
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2. West Virginia would move to criminalize it post haste
Even our democrats here bow and scrape to the morally bankrupt, ethically dead "pro-life" movement.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:14 PM
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3. Roe will not be overturned --
it will be picked at and picked at, as it has been since the outset, until there is nothing left to protect.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:16 PM
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5. In Oregon where I live, it would still be legal to obtain one
I think the same holds true for Washington State and California, which also had pre-Roe legislation protecting women's freedom of choice. Not sure about anyone east of here. The sad thing is that many, many woman will suffer as a result of overturning Roe. Mostly young, poor and underprivilaged women. The Bush twins and women like them will ALWAYS have access to safe abortion.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:17 PM
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6. Well, we were one of the three pre-Roe states...
but, there has been an awful lot of fundie-related activity out here lately, extending as far up as our repuke Lt. Gov.
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:19 PM
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7. I'm sure it would be somewhat legal in Vermont
but the stark fact is there would be a lot of dead girls in basements, just like before Roe.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:21 PM
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8. Maybe we need it to be overturned...
that way it will wake a lot of people up. This shouldn't even be a debate anymore - the government has no business in this sort of decision making. But when you have larger number of people who have little opinion of this issue because of their complacency, maybe a cold bucket of government intervention is needed to rise them from their stupor.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:23 PM
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9. Hard to imagine that abortion would be illegal in Washington.
Or, my old home in California.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:27 PM
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11. It'd be illegal here, most likely...
the Repubs control the state house and governorship.
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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:28 PM
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12. The Bush Twins would not be effected.
They can afford a long weekend in Canada for a little medical procedure....which would be a private family matter, of course.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:28 PM
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13. "Blue states" will probably keep it legal....
"Red states" will probably try to criminalize it. If Repubs are successful in Red states, I wonder if concerned groups will try to organize transportation means for women in Red states to travel to Blue states for abortions.

If so, watch for the Repubs to push for laws banning the transportation of women across states lines for this reason.
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kahleefornia Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:31 PM
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14. question - sorry if this is dumb
But if Roe were overturned, would that make it illegal to have an abortion, or just illegal for doctors to perform them? or both?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:34 PM
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16. I should think neither. It would become a states rights matter,
much as it was prior to Roe. That is, unless the federal government passed legislation to ban it.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:56 PM
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23. Depends on the state
I believe Ohio's legislature has a bill ready to go into law as soon as Roe is overturned that makes it illegal for ANY procedure, AND illegal to transport a woman across state lines to obtain one. In that law, though, I only read that the doctors and those who would help transport women would be subject to arrest. I'm sure that in some states they'd also decide to throw the would-be mother in jail.

What will happen will be a new "Underground Railroad" where women go from the no choice states to choice states via secret groups.
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:33 PM
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15. Arizona = No abortion
That was the law before Roe vs Wade.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:36 PM
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17. Not only will Tennessee make it illegal but they
will probably prosecute anyone who helps a woman go to another state for an abortion even if that woman is her mother. But that wont stop all the dead an mutilated girls from using home abortions and back alley abortionists. I wonder if Frist plans on buying stocks in back alley abortions once he votes in Alito. Might as well put those day traders in his office to good use.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:44 PM
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19. He will probably buy plenty of stock in the
wire hanger business.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:42 PM
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18. Indiana-No abortion.
The fundie fuckers would have it no other way.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:48 PM
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20. It's currently legal in Colorado, and would take a major voter initiative
to overturn it. I believe it was a constitutional amendment.

But there are enough psychos in Colorado Springs that they will try.
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Zorro-3 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 02:52 PM
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22. Georgia would be okay
The state legislature would probably try to restrict it, but the Georgia Supreme Court would stop them. They gave us the right to sodomy even before Lawrence v Texas.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 03:04 PM
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24. Oklahoma: Take a guess, no really, take a guess, its not that hard.
They would prob call a special session of the legislature and tromple each other trying to get to the floor to outlaw it. This should be a given, there is no doubt it would be done for.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 03:05 PM
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25. Depends on what the governor does
If it happens and we still have our democratic governor it all depends on him. He isn't a DLCer so he'll probably hopefully veto it.
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