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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:02 PM
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Where's a cabal of billionaires to BUY KnightRidder - the best newsgroup
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 11:07 PM by blm
with the toughest investigative bureau in the media business?

This is the best chance for the left to PROTECT the last major objective news group in the media and to prevent the RW media machine from acquiring the LAST BEST HOPE this nation has for an honest media group.

The RW fascists set course to control as much media as they could buy up throughout the 80s and 90s, and are now in near total control of all broadcast media.

We see their shills planted in newsrooms at every major paper. KnightRidder was the last holdout. They are working to break it up into small pieces so there is no power or force behind the DC bureau.

Where are the wealthy left in this communications battle?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:12 PM
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1. repost of AX10 thread on media and the Dems
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/012506.html

"Yet as galling as it may be for some readers to see how the Times and other major mainstream media outlets are framing the Alito confirmation, the broader problem has been the failure of well-to-do liberals and progressive foundations to finance a media infrastructure that can act as a counterweight to the right-wing media machine.

The Right’s media now rises like a giant vertically integrated corporation from newspapers, magazines and books to talk radio, cable news, TV pundits and Internet sites. The machine is lavishly financed at each level and can turn even fringe issues (like the “war on Christmas”) into questions that dominate the national debate.

By contrast, the Left’s chief funders have historically starved independent media outlets, following the dogma that “activism” and “organizing” can solve almost all problems. Therefore, Democrats find themselves dependent on the mainstream media for whatever attention their positions do get."

.......
"Conservatives have been richly rewarded from their investment in an infrastructure to get their message out and help Republicans build a powerful base of support among the people, especially in areas with little media diversity, i.e. the Red States."

(The Left's Media Miscalculation)
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/042805.html

".....leaders of the Right and the Left made fateful choices that have shaped today’s political world. Though both sides had access to similar amounts of money from wealthy individuals and like-minded foundations, the two sides chose to invest that money in very different ways.

The Right concentrated on gaining control of the information flows in Washington and on building a media infrastructure that would put out a consistent conservative message across the country. As part of this strategy, the Right also funded attack groups to target mainstream journalists who got in the way of the conservative agenda.

The Left largely forsook media in favor of “grassroots organizing.” As many of the Left’s flagship media outlets foundered, the “progressive community” reorganized under the slogan – “think globally, act locally” – and increasingly put its available money into well-intentioned projects, such as buying endangered wetlands or feeding the poor.

So, while the Right waged what it called “the war of ideas” and expanded the reach of conservative media to every corner of the nation, the Left trusted that local political action would reenergize American democracy."

........
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/062005.html

"Though the Internet may be one area where progressives have established a stronger presence than conservatives, the Right has deployed its Internet resources more effectively by using them as part of a multi-layered media strategy.

Conservative Internet sites introduce attacks that then get amplified by other conservative media – talk radio, newspapers, cable TV – and are forced into the mainstream media.

Most memorably, right-wing activists leaked to Matt Drudge and his Internet site some facts about President Bill Clinton’s affair with White House aide Monica Lewinsky in 1998. Then, other conservative outlets pushed the story, driving it quickly into the mainstream media."

"The vastness of the right-wing echo chamber essentially lets information or propaganda be inserted at any point among the varied media outlets. The entry could be from a book (such as the attacks on John Kerry’s war record) or in newspapers or on talk radio or on cable news – before the material starts reverberating. Soon, mainstream news outlets are joining in the media frenzy – fearing accusations of “liberal bias” if they don’t.
-There is NO question that the left needs to build it's own echo chamber to counter the right wing echo chamber."
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:20 PM
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2. Who needs newspapers?
Edited on Fri Jan-27-06 11:22 PM by firefox
In the last 5 years I might have bought 10 newspapers and that was for coupons.

All we have to do is abandon our purchases of crap and they will change. They cannot sell the television-watching knownothings because they do not read.

I put more faith in the Internet. The snowball has just now started going down the hill. It just takes one outlet to be honest and the intellectual will find it- http://www.iwtnews.com/blog/4 Besides that, I know that things are FUBAR anyway until you can smoke a joint in peace. I do not need any more information.

All I need to know is the true military budget to understand what is happening. Everything else is supporting material.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:22 PM
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3. Do you know how investigative bureaus work? They aren't supported by the
internet.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 08:09 PM
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21. I understand. You support nonews and you get nonews.
Withhold your money and they will change.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:42 AM
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22. You believe this country can afford to lose its last objective newsource
and I do not.

When it's gone, it's gone. NO ONE will keep BushInc under scrutiny. Certainly not effectively as a KnightRidder DC bureau can.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 09:54 AM
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23. Cool...
Thanks for the link. Why have I not heard of this network before? There really should be fundraising on the blogs and news sites that the left visits everyday.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 11:40 PM
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4. One of the best suggestions I've heard...
... is not to sell the entire chain, but pick two or three of the flagship papers (Philly, etc.) for sale to non-profit foundations. That happened to, I believe, the St. Petersburg Times (to the Pew Trust?) and it seems to be working out well.

That would put cash in the hands of the greedy bastards and the papers in the hands of less-politically minded owners. It might also prevent the dissolution of one of the few remaining investigative reporting units left in the country.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:28 PM
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10. It's the strength in numbers that maintains the DC investigative bureau.
.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 03:26 AM
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5. better yet . . . let's get Ted Turner to buy back CNN . . .
to put together a cabal of progressive multi-millionaires to take over CNN and return it to honesty and respectability as a legitimate news source . . .
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 03:46 AM
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6. yes!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 09:46 AM
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7. House of Saud and House of Bush will NOT sell CNN - it's their PR Dept for
perpetual war and they make their biggest gains in power and dollars off of war.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 10:02 AM
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8. I have been following this for a bit now..
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 10:22 AM by converted_democrat
Two big issues.. 1. The amount of cash it would take to have any say in what is going on is( it surprised even me ) simply staggering, and 2. They pretty much have everyone convinced that there is no profit to be had, unless the company is broke into smaller pieces.. (It's hard to raise money for a cause when the people that should be "talking up" the company are claiming it has no value in its current state.) I honestly believe it will be broken up, and our only hope is that some Lib and Dem minded people or groups buy the most valuable pieces.

on edit- to make clearer
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:37 AM
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9. They HAVE to have the juice to PRESERVE the DC bureau or this country is
SCREWED.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:32 PM
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11. Converted dem...there IS profit - not great, but nothing to sneeze at - so
those doing the discouraging are trying to sabotage to FORCE breakup.

15% - 20% is not a bad profit at all for newspapers. It's supposed to be a real public service.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:52 PM
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13. I know that there is profit to be made, and you know that there is profit
to be made.. The trick is to get an investor(s) to see it that way.. I know exactly what's going on.. The bull that has been spread is highly effective in discouraging prospects.. I have not given up though..
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 03:16 PM
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15. Knowing what's going on is what's steaming me up over this.
Thanks for steaming with me.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:39 PM
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12. How much $$ needs to be raised to buy it?
Does anybody know?


:kick:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 01:16 PM
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14. converted dem has looked into it - see the post above....
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 01:16 PM by blm
the GOP cronies don't even buy media for its profit margins - as long as they can use media to push their message, then they profit through other means - like their war profiteering and energy gouging ventures. They get away with it cuz they OWN THE MICROPHONES.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 04:30 PM
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16. Recommended and Kicked
because this is Uber Important! Why didn't the Dems think about all the freakin' airwaves and news bureaus like the nazi wingers did?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 08:15 PM
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24. Because Dems aren't wired for deceit the way Republicans are.
And that's my best answer, zidzi.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 04:34 PM
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17. Maybe it wouldn't be a good move businesswise and
Edited on Sat Jan-28-06 04:35 PM by Cleita
there could be a possibility of it reverting back to the RW with a hostile takeover.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 05:10 PM
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18. What do you think is happening right now?
Bush cronies bought up shares in 2000 and are now forcing a break up.

KnightRidder operates at a profit. The cronies are demanding unreasonably HIGHER profits.

RevMoon operates his news group at a loss every year since he started but the fascist agenda is the goal and media is just an expense towards that goal.

FOX took initial heavy losses all for the fascist goal.

GE doesn't care if the NBC news shows operate at a loss, as long as they promote war and fascism, the profits for GE's war profiteering ventures bring in BILLIONS.

Some wealthy Dems can't handle an HONEST news group making a modest profit? I don't believe they are that hardened.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 06:28 PM
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19. I was just throwing out an opinion as to what could be behind
this. I frankly am mystified that Ted Turner hasn't tried to start a new news channel after what was done to CNN. Maybe he doesn't care.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 07:21 PM
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20. I know, Cleita. Gee...I didn't realize I sounded brittle in my reply.
I really am posting straight, no tartness. ;))))
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