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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:11 AM
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Stealth Vote 2006
In my experience, people tend to focus on the Presidential elections and kind of blow off the midterm elections, unless they know the other side is pushing for something big.

I don't know how we could pull it off but, is there a way to organize on a massive scale, without tipping our hand to the Republicans? To lull them into a false sense of security by pretending to be lackluster in our support of Dem Candidates, them take them completely by suprise when we show up at the polls in full force.

Our name implies that we are an underground movement, but we are monitored by RW Trolls and Moles. What can we do to be both effective, but low key, to rally a coordinated force of hundreds of thousands without kicking up the dust?

My first thought is of turning their tricks against them... For starters missinformation. Provided that our party knows in advance not to be disheartened when the early numbers come in, I say we mislead the pollsters. If you get a politcal survey call, say that you were a democrat but, that your voting republican this time. If one hundred thousand dems do this, they will skew the results and the Repubs won't try as hard, they won't pour obscene amounts of money into ad campains in a state they think will be easy to win.

My second thought is showing up on the very last day of elections. In 04 the polls were open for about a week, plenty of time to see which way the winds were blowing and organize a counter attack. If the early vote results indicate a Repub landslide, most repubs who haven't voted already will just stay home.

Then we strike, and strike big. Overwhemling force and all that. Even if it looks like we're going to win a state, go vote. Even if Dems outnumber the Repubs 10 to 1 in the lines, go vote, make it 20 to 1. Make the difference between the right and the left so apparent, that no computer fudging will be able to compensate.

Third thought, make your own paper trail. When you get to the part where the volunteers look up your name in the rosters, Bring a little sticker with you that says "In 06' I voted Democratic" and ask them to place that sticker by your name in the rosters. Also, it might not hurt to wear blue. Bring a blue jacket, or sweater, or T-Shirt, or whatever, and put in on once you've voted. Then gather somewhere not far from the polling place, it might even make the news, a thousand people, outside a polling place, waiting to see if the number of Democratic votes tallied from that polling place matches the number of people standing outside wearing blue.

Any thoughts or suggestions pretaining to this line of thought should be expressed freely, in the boxes below.
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:16 AM
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1. Project X ... shhhh!
We're not supposed to talk about Project X here!

By the way, today's Project X message from headquarters is "Green Diamond Seven Blue." And a reminder that all current code cards expire Feb. 1.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 12:05 PM
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4. Your mocking me aren't you...
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:48 AM
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8. Whispering Pines Turn Blue in the Fall
4 Red and 41 Blue Ducks Fly By Night.
Line will hold the leevee's breech
The Fat Man is calling the Shots.

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:20 AM
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2. If Fitz indicts Rove and takes away the Katrina slush fund, thats enough.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 11:28 AM
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3. Buy Diebold
You've got to take away the GOP toys if you want them to clean up their room.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:17 AM
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5. kick
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 10:31 AM
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6. I think the 'stealth" idea could backfire "bigtime."
It's at least somewhat harder for the Puggies to steal an election outright when the forecasts are for a Dem landslide than the other way around. They have a little more 'splainin' to do.

As for making your own paper trail or gathering outside in distinctive clothing or whatever, you could never make that work. People don't have all day to stand around. They just wouldn't do the little sticker thing. It wouldn't prove anything if they did.

I just don't think there's any way around it. We have to clean up the election process, get an honest and verifiiable voting process, and then beat the shit out of them.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:43 AM
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7. How do we get the election system cleaned up then?
Isn't the damage already done? Isn't it too late for that now? If the machines are already in place, and the ones with the power to remove the machines won't, because they're the ones rigging the machines.

The People: We think the voting machines are screwed up. We think the machines miscounted the vote, and you weren't really elected. We need to remove the machines, or at least inspect them to make sure their clean.

Official: I don't think that's necessary.

The People: Well of course you'd say that, with the machines gone, there would be no way to garuntee future republican victories in you district.

Official: Well, if you don't like the way I run things feel free to vote me out in November...

The People: We think the voting machines are screwed up. We think the machines miscounted the vote, and you weren't really elected. We need to remove the machines, or at least inspect them to make sure their clean.

Official: I don't think that's necessary.

The People: Well of course you'd say that, with the machines gone, there would be no way to garuntee future republican victories in you district.

Official: Well, if you don't like the way I run things feel free to vote me out in November...

The People: Ok, isn't creating a paradox supposed to destroy the whole universe or something...

It defies logic. These machines, alowed the officials to steal the elections and seize power. These officials have the power to remove these machines, but they won't. It goes against their self-interest to do that because removing the machines will prohibit the theft of any more elections. How can the people break this cycle?
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