The purpose of Iran--

[carolinalady]

Iran is 5-10 years away from making a nuclear weapon. Personally I do not believe that George has any intention of picking a war with them. I think Iran has been rolled out for political purpose only. Instill new fear in Americans then roll out the safety issue which has been the RW trump card in the last two elections. Media ordered to discuss the issue every day, every hour. Oh, and a great side benefit? As long as they are talking about Iran, they AREN'T talking about Katrina, Jack, Karl and Osama. That is why our party needs to get dramatic and creative. We have to keep this issues on the front burner in such a way that MSM is compelled to cover them.

[thinkingwoman]

1. the purpose of Iran

is to complete the pipeline.

There WILL be a war. It will be for oil. It will commence before elections and next year's impeachment proceedings. Bushco will try to claim that we can't impeach a president during a war.

Watch and see.

[carolinalady]

3. Tell me more about this pipeline. Thanks. n/t

[thinkingwoman]

4. oh hell, I'm terrible with searches

we're going to need help from more able DU'ers on this one.

I learned about the pipeline here at DU, years ago...back before the Iraq war started. Apparently the pipeline originates in Afghanistan and is set to go through Iran and Iraq and maybe Syria? (Note these are the countries we hear the most about year after year as well).

Anyway, this (the war on terror) is absolutely an oil war. And, just like any other war for resources in history, it takes us to strange places with even stranger cover stories designed to mask our true intentions. A true war on terror would be fought in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, North Korea, and other similar countries. Instead, we seem to be focusing on the very countries where that pipeline is supposed to go. Hmmm.

I'm sorry I can't dig up links. I'm really hoping a more able DU'er will see this post and chime in!

[phoebe]

6. Here's a little something

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1609217,001302080000.htm

snip

President Pervez Musharraf mounted a strong defence on Thursday of Pakistan's plans for a natural gas pipeline with Iran, amid pressure from a concerned United States.

With Washington openly hostile to Iran, Musharraf said the pipeline, which also involves India, was a purely economic project that had nothing to do with the row over Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

snip

The United States, however, said earlier this month that it was "absolutely opposed" to the project.

At the same time, he signalled the possibility the United States could pay Pakistan to step away from the deal.


more here

http://www.forbes.com/business/energy/newswire/2004/03/26/rtr1313386.html

http://framehosting.dowjonesnews.com/sample/samplestory.asp?StoryID=2005053013570000&Take=1

http://www.iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/2/2477

[carolinalady]

9. I am still confused after reading those links-Iraq is going to be

part of this pipeline so what is the problem? Why does the US not want more oil available? I thought they loved oil.

[phoebe]

10. they do - they have to be very careful who they deal with these days

because Bushco 1 and 2/Reagan have done such a "fine" job of picking "reliable" regimes in the past to assist the US (sarcasm)..

[bigtree]

12. I think they're bent about Russia China and others getting cozy with Iran

and their oil. Pars field in Iran is the largest in the world. Other countries, including most of the EU, are developing trading relationships with Iran that marginalize our regional influence.

[Malikshah]

7. Yup-- 5 trillion worth of oil and nat gas confirmed in and around

Caspian sea...

Why do people think we have all these connectins in Central Asia, Georgia, etc and are allowing Uzbekistan to be so vile (for now...;))

[European Socialist]

2. Also, it keeps oil prices high, which seems to be a Bush goal.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. Bogeymen are never in short supply for politicians.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." H.L. Mencken

[savemefromdumbya]

8. Used throughout history

[McCamy Taylor]

11. We are taking out Iran for Saudi Arabia, the Bush Family Masters.

Iran is home of the Shi'ites, the fundie muslim rivals of the Saudis. Shi'ites are an oppressed minority in Saudi Arabia right now. The ruling family fears that Iran's model of a theocracy with a democractically elected government could influence its own people to overthrow its unpopular monarchy. It needs to destabilize Iran. Driving up the price of oil yet again is just a side benefit for Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia was behind Selection 2000. James Baker III who orchestarted it is their boy. They are the ones who hate us for our democracy and hate Iran's democracy and who use us as their own private mercenary force. They took out Sadaam. They told us to stop pestering the Taliban (their idiologic buddies) and Osama (their cousin) and go after Iraq instead.

It is all being done for the Saudis.

[CJCRANE]

13. Bushco really is a Trojan Horse for foreign interests

right in the heart of America.

[carolinalady]

14. That is probably the most truthful explanation I have heard-

Thank you. Now it makes sense to me.