Who said that Jimmy Carter is a worse former Pres than he was Pres and do

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

you agree?

[sallyseven]

1. No and he was a good president

if reagan hadn't promised Iran something Carter would have gotten the hostages out. It was a scam game.

[madokie]

3. Sure it was, Carter like Clinton had very little bi-partisanship help

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

6. He had excellent programs, wanted to switch to alternative fuels

and had no bipartisan support.

And people call reagan a great president? That deal with Iran re the hostages is truly disgusting, you might even say it was traitorous as it kept the hostages in captivity longer than they would otherwise have been.

[Botany]

2. George Will on George Steph's show

The same man who used Carter's notes for the debate with Reagan
...... that had been stolen from Carter to prep Reagan for the debate
w/ Carter in 1980. He then wrote a piece in either time or newsweek
praising Reagan's command of the material.

George Will is just a more refined Bob Novak or Ann Coulter.

As for being an ex President gee, stopped wars, fair election in some countries,
aids drugs & prevention, and thousand of homes for the needy.

Fuck you Will!

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

4. He's a real class act, NOT

George Will, I mean.

I didn't know he did that re Carter's notes.

[Botany]

7. here you go

http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id293.htm

In his book Gambling With History: Reagan in the White House, Laurence Barrett provided an in-depth account of the Reagan administration's first two years. He also mentioned that during the 1980 presidential campaign, briefing papers to be used by Jimmy Carter in preparation for the October 28 debate with his Republican challenger had somehow been acquired by Reagan's team. The papers gave Reagan advance warning about the issues his opponent would raise. It was a dirty trick, said Barrett, Time's senior White House correspondent, and he surmised that a Reagan "mole" had "filched" the papers. The story broke wide open in the summer of 1983, after Gambling With History hit the bookstands. Though some politicians and journalists dismissed it as a tempest in a teapot, Debategate, as it came to be known, caused Reagan big problems. While some Americans disagreed with his policies, most believed him to be a man of integrity; Debategate raised questions whether that was true.

snip


short article

bottom line .... these are not republicans of Ike, Teddy Roosevelt, Goldwater, Chuck Percy, or Margaret Chase
Smith (women senator from Maine) .... they are from the Joe McCarthy, Dick Nixon, Lee Atwater, and Karl Rove
school.

[delete_bush]

17. a more refined...Ann Coulter?

I think you're on to something. Anyone recall ever seeing Georgie Porgie and Ann the Man in the same room, at the same time?

[Botany]

20. no they are different people ....

..... Ann is far tougher then Will.

[delete_bush]

21. I'm thinking split personality here,

Will is the feminine half, Annie the hyper-masculine.

[Shortyfuse]

5. I heard that

I think he must have read my post on other sites. I think Jimmy Carter was the best Pres we have had. He saw the rising tide of oil dependency and started R&D programs and even went as far as putting solar cells on the White House.( Bush Sr. took them off saying; they were ugly) The 500 destroyed him and have managed to put people in office to promote their agenda ever since.

[madmom]

8. just finished Carter's new book "Our Endangered Values"

excellent!!!!:thumbsup:

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

12. Yea, I bet they don't like it.

Plus the religious right was behind him before he was in office, then felt betrayed by him.

[peekaloo]

9. No, I don't agree. Bu$h lickers are pissed about that Nobel Peace Prize.

I also remember that Carter's family was skewered unmercifully in the press, too.

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

10. Good point! Who else got one lately? Baradai of the IAEA,

and who else?

[peekaloo]

13. Shirin Ebadi an Iranian activist

the last three have been a slap in the face to Boo$h

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

15. You gotta love it both cause they are good choices and cause

it is a slap in the face to shrubby.

[Totally Committed]

11. In a world of war, men of peace are always misunderstood....

the perception of this good man is way off. I don't always agree with what comes out of his mouth, but I love his heart and soul. He is a good and decent human being.

TC

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

14. And brilliant, like Clinton and Clark.

Democrats have some of the most brilliant minds on our side.

Jimmy Carter is a decent man, yes I really agree.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

16. I've heard this garbage from right wingers

who go ahead and tell me that Carter is not a true Christian, too. Seeing as they believe Christianity is for war and for killing anyone who doesn't convert to their twisted form of Christianity. Come to think of it, Carter doesn't fit their definition. These bozos go on to say that everything he's done since leaving the White House saying it's simply to give himself glory. But then these people also want to kill me because of my religious beliefs. I sort of leave them alone.

[froshty1960]

18. From the Rethug point of view

Since the Rethugs think that a *good* president is someone who steals elections, rules like a fascist dictator, lines the pockets of oil companies and other cronies, destroys the middle class, lies to start a war, effectively bankrupts the country, and has absolutely no moral compunction at all, I can see why they would think Carter was a terrible president and an even worse former President!

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

19. Hehe

:rofl:

[applegrove]

22. They always said he was a great former President. But now that

the whole middle east has gone to hell - Carter's demands that the shaw stop it with torture and start with Demcracy look very, very important. Now his Presidency looks better. Cause, unlike the neocons, he was for democracy in the middle east a full 15 years before the neocons. A full 25 years before the repubes.

Still puts him 25 years late. When it really mattered for the Middle East to go democratic... the West stopped them in so many ways, and Saudi Arabian oil dollars did the rest.

[greenbriar]

23. hannity said it and he was a GREAT president and a Great statesman

fuck anyone who says different.