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ES&S may in fact be worse! (--closer to Howard Ahmanson's Chalcedon Foundation--he directly funded ES&S, which was a spinoff of Diebold).
I don't agree that Diebold played a small roll. They controlled many of the central tabulators, and Diebold and ES&S together counted 80% of the vote. And it was Diebold touchscreens that were changing Kerry votes to Bush votes.
It's not just the voting machines themselves, it's the central tabulators. And it's not just touchscreens (DREs), it's also optiscans. And it's not just Diebold, it's ES&S, Sequoia and a couple of others. ALL of it is run on "trade secret," proprietary programming code. All of it represents private corporate control of our vote counts under a veil of secrecy.
Wilms, I think I understand people shouting about a victory over Diebold. They should be proud of any such victory. We have to get the ball rolling. People know this name. There is so much amunition against Diebold--their felon programmers, their ties to Bush, their machines' many failed tests--they can't help but use it. And Diebold touchscreens are, indeed, the worst pieces of crap American industry ever came up with (I'll bet their manufactured in Malaysia, too--or China). It's a strategy error not to go for the main principles of non-transparent elections, and to fail to note, in the whoops of a particular victory, how far we yet have to go. But as I said, it's understandable. And, in this very, very oppressive situation, we are forced to look for "hooks"--or, for some way to pull at the threads, to unravel this tapestry of deception and corruption. A big effort on Diebold, say--as just occured (and is on-going) in California--was prompted by McPherson's effort to RE-certify Diebold, after Shelley had de-certified them. So people gravitated to that effort, to stop it. But in the PROCESS, more and more people are getting educated on the issue, and we now have a new candidate for Sec of State (Debra Bowen) who understands the issue thoroughly, and is running on a transparency platform.
Good to issue a warning, though. (I've issued such warnings myself--for instance, on federalization of our election systems, under the guise of reform, and all the evils that could lead to. They might still do this--say, require a 'paper trail' but keep "trade secret" programming, and require all electronic elections--which could well make things far WORSE, in the end.)
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