Cleveland police brutalize woman for putting up "Bush Step Down" posters

[Glimmer of Hope]

On the World Can't Wait web site there is this disturbing account of a Cleveland woman who was brutalized and arrested by Cleveland police for putting up anti-Bush posters:

"...One of the cops says to me, "Shut up or I will kill you!", "I am sick of this anti-Bush shit!" "You are definitely going to the psyche ward." Then somebody calls the EMS, and a fire squad shows up. The cop superviser appears and puts his finger in my face: "I dont like it when people treat my men like this and if you don't obey the law you will suffer the consequences." ..."



http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=842&Itemid=184

What the hell?

[bahrbearian]

1. Ohio,,, Ohio,,, Ohio.

[movonne]

2. I guess the Ohio police is as corrup as the Ohio Repub party...

[demosincebirth]

13. Most cops are right wingers anyway.

I have a large extended family (in the eighties)and all are dems except one nephew of mine who is a sheriff

[AllieB]

17. I come from a family of cops and firefighters

and they're all Democrats. Go figure. :shrug: Maybe it's because they're in the Northeast.

[BiggJawn]

37. They're Robo-Cop wanna-bes in the Midwest.

Shaved heads, black uniforms, huge biceps (steroid-enhanced?) sunglasses, even at night...
Fucking storm troopers.

[Clark2008]

38. More like this:

[BiggJawn]

50. OMG! It's the WCSD!

Oh, wait a minute...They don't have any black deputies in White County...
But that IS our dispatcher on the right...

[we can do it]

88. You're Kidding Right? Lots Have Fat Bellies Here In Ohio

[AX10]

59. They are?

A family of police and they are all Democrats. Interesting indeed.
Though I to am from the Northeast and I must say that our police are not known for their overly aggressive (abusive) behavior as they are in other parts of the country.

[Sparkman]

69. UNIONs! Government workers NEED unions. To bad they also vote RW

because they want the FEAR that the pugs promote...to further the private war profiteers, the prision industrial complex, and the oppression necessary for the cops to have a free hand.
Justice and civil liberties are the opponents of brutality by those in power, like cops and U.S. miltary and the Fascists in the WH and the congress. Individuals are not protected on the street w/o legal battles, and individual citizens are not protected from the abuses of power w/o lawyers.
That's why JFK said, "When we make peaceful revolution impossible, we make violent revolution inevitable."

[demosincebirth]

84. It could be.

[Meldread]

3. Someone needs to investigate this NOW.

We need to find out if the story checks out, and if it does we need to get it out EVERYWHERE. It needs to be on the News. We need some witnesses.

[Catch22Dem]

4. Tin soldiers and Nix...I mean Bush is coming...

It's only a matter of time before the * admin kills American citizens who protest their government.

[Cobalt Violet]

14. I don't think it will be very far from now.

I think we will have a crack down soon.

[Sparkman]

73. Kill, instead of just firing from gov & defense plant jobs u mean? Careers

are being ruined as we ignore the war crimes and the Fascist attacks upon our civil liberties.
Ever notice the cameras the cops wield at protests. I have seen the cops go into two protests, five strong, to intimidate while cameras positioned above the crowds roll. THis is Fascist America, in full bloom. During the McCarthy era hundreds lost careers and jobs and were even jailed, for demonstrating peacefully. Same thing happened in the Nixon era. Same thing is happening now, can some people think the Nixon Dirty Tricks and 1st Amendment violations stopped?!

[FtWayneBlue]

5. Looks like Cleveland is in for a lawsuit. n/t

[Initech]

6. Wow, somebody call the gestapo!

:yoiks:

[sam sarrha]

10. looks like someone did..!!

[Fridays Child]

7. Beyond outrageous.

This needs national media attention. (I know, I know.)

[Selatius]

8. In general, I don't trust police as far as I can throw an officer.

There have to be citizen oversight boards on these police forces. The last thing we need is a police force goose-stepping to the beat of Bush and his financiers. The police forces can provide a benefit, but at the same time, the fact that police brutality, corruption, and abuse of power is an ever-present issue, especially with respect to inner-city areas, requires us to be ever-vigilant with respect to police authority.

[AX10]

9. Let's "BRUTALIZE" THEIR UNIONS!

Everyone just get a gun and protect yourself.

Seriously, I do not believe that the police should be allowed to unionize. They have enough power as it is, too much power.

....and of course, it's the firemen who came to the poor woman's help. We can always count on them to help us. That's why so many people admire them. When they go into the "line of fire", they don't get a gun or the law to protect them.

This needs media attention.

[Ian David]

18. My city just elected a mayor who bitch-slapped a fireman

On television.

During a labor dispute.

The day before the primary.

He outspent his oponent by $20,000 and won by less than 800 votes.

Harrington: Sucker-punching firemen for Brockton since 2005

[YOY]

53. I've known some lazy freaking firemen in my time

Granted the inner city firemen do a hard job, but some of suburbian firemen I have had the displeasure of meeting were some of the most lazy piles of ego I've ever seen. Post 9-11 some of them really played up the "We're all hero's" crap to the hilt...

Some cops really do earn their money too. They see the worst of the world and have one of the most depressing jobs in the world. As a result they have a high suicide rate.

For every cop who hides behind the badge and flaunts his ego with a nightstick there's another who we can be sure is truly there to "serve and protect." The problem is that they tend to stick up for each other regardless of how lousy a cop really is...

Claiming that all cops are gestapo thugs like these dipshits and all firemen are heros is just silly.

[Sparkman]

74. The BAD APPLES don't spoil the good ones...who work for justice. Most

cops earn their keep, and carry the assholes that would otherwise work at Walmart for $8/hr.
The criminal mind is attracted to policing, and bullying, no?

[we can do it]

89. You Got the Suburban Firefighter Description Right - Lazy Backstabbing...

Moneygrubbing SOBS, much like suburban cops.....

[YOY]

95. Heh

I have a buddy who refused to become a suburb cop and would only apply to highly populated urban centers. He used the "moneygrubbing" for that very purpose.

He's on the force in a major urban center now and I frankly think he's a perfect fit.

[jimshoes]

11. Just to clarify

Cleveland Heights is a suburb of Cleveland. Cleveland gets a bad enough rap on a lot of things but this is not their doing. So please remember it's Cleveland Heights when discussing. Thank you all.

[LisaL]

29. Cleveland heights is 20 minutes from downtown.

It's definitely an urban area.

[jimshoes]

34. I know where it is

I live in another suburb of Cleveland.

[Ian David]

12. This shit can not be allowed to continue

[Ian David]

15. Division of Police and Mayor

Division of Police
Martin G. Lentz, Chief of Police
216-291-4974

IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, CALL 9-1-1

Non-emergency Police number: 216-321-1234

The Cleveland Heights Division of Police is dedicated to providing superior service to the citizens of Cleveland Heights. Over the past eight years, the City of Cleveland Heights has consistently ranked as the safest city in Ohio for violent crimes for cities with over 50,000 residents.

Cleveland Heights,
Mayor Edward J. Kelley
1542 Kew Road 44118
[phone]
www.clevelandheights.com | [e-mail]

[seabeyond]

19. pop this back up to front page tomorrow. i am going to give them a call.

people across the nation need to call to ask if harrassment is the punishment for anti bush signs and if this is now against our laws. if it is their job to intimidate our women. if this is what our police departments have reduced themselves to. if I MUST be afraid fo them now.

dont ever forget. we the poeple ok'ed this. i read it on this board. SHOOT TO KILL FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER..........

we are so afraid. we told our law enforcemetn this was A OK

[boobooday]

16. Disgusting

So there wasn't one cop on the scene who objected to this?

I hope that there was one of them who has a conscience and will speak up.

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

20. Sickening. Recommended.

[Lorien]

21. K&R

[Zambero]

22. Tin Soldiers and Nixon Comin'.....

Well, Nixon's long gone but the tin soldier mentality as originally penned by Neil Young apparently persists in Ohio.

[OneBlueSky]

31. you beat me to it . . .

I'm just wondering how long it will be before "Four dead in O-HI-O" . . .

[ninkasi]

23. The new uniform...

brownshirts and jackboots. Very Nazi, very...Bush Amerika.

[bobthedrummer]

24. It's part of the evolving form of fascism here in our nation. n/t

[The Doctor.]

25. "First they ignore you...

Then they laugh at you...

Then they fight you...

Then you win."
-Ghandi

[derby378]

30. That didn't work out so well for European Jews during WWII, though

I appreciate the sentiment, but sometimes you just have to fight back no matter how much of a pacifist you are.

[RandomKoolzip]

67. Yeah...plus, don't people laugh at "Intelligent Design" nowadays?

I hate that quote; you can apply it to any right-wing nutball idea too.

[Peanutcat]

26. Other sources?

Has anyone Googled this story to find other sources?

[liberalhistorian]

48. I lived in NE OH all my life, until just

last summer, so I'm going to do some checking on the truth of this. I'm not saying it isn't true, and God knows I know OH well enough to know that such a thing wouldn't be at all out of character for it, and especially that particular area of OH, but I think we need to really verify the truth of this story before we go apeshit. We can't just automatically accept stories like this as true without doing any verification.

[hyphenate]

51. I couldn't find ANYTHING

on Google news on this. And I tried altering the search terms several times to see what I could find--zip, zilch, nada.

[Peanutcat]

58. Me too

Not one single thing. The tinhat people wi;; say it's because it being covered up, but every single other story that's supposedly been "covered up", I have at least found something, but not this story.

[Canuckistanian]

27. Lovely!

Great public relations for Bushco, as usual! Just in time for the SOTU.

You can always count on them to make a bad situation worse.

[Meldread]

28. KICK -nt-

:kick:

[nedbal]

32. The Only Good Liberal is a Dead Liberal!

NYPD RANT

http://p066.ezboard.com/fnypdrant64609frm1.showMessage?topicID=25958.topic&index=10

[pacalo]

33. If this story checks out, it should be sent to all the senators who

votes to confirm Alito, particularly those who "want to get on to more important issues."

I'm stunned at what this woman went through.

[chat_noir]

35. Cleveland Plain Dealer contacts

http://www.plaindealer.com/contact/

[HughBeaumont]

40. Be sure one of these PD Bushbots don't answer:

Alex "We endorse Bush or we endorse NO ONE!" Machaskee
Kevin "Bucky the Beaver" O'Brien
Stephen "Outsourcing is great and so is our Dear Leader" Koff

[liberalhistorian]

49. Email Connie Schultz,

she's a great columnist who's on our side and she won the Pulitzer Prize for newspaper commentary last year; she's not afraid of standing up against the powers-that-be for the "little guy", and she'd be able to check further into the truth of this. Again, we have to verify this, we can't just always automatically accept stories like this as true.

Her email is [e-mail]

[OzarkDem]

44. Call Cleveland City Hall

They have a new mayor - Frank Jackson. See if he'll do something.

http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/index1.html

[asthmaticeog]

64. He won't. Because it's Cleveland Heights.

It's a different city, over which Jackson has no jurisdiction.

[JNelson6563]

36. Here in Michigan

We've always known Ohio is screwed up.

Julie

[FreedomAngel82]

39. Oh gosh

:scared: :cry: The poor woman and what she went through. Wow. :cry: I'm glad she had someone there for her.

[sarcasmo]

41. How can one say we are not in a Dictatorship.

[OzarkDem]

42. Cleveland cops are notoriously rotten

Many are corrupt or incompetent and they have a record for lying and being racist. Kind of surprising in a city run by Dems, but they have a very strong union and basically ignore the Dem mayor and Dem city council.

I recall being a volunteer driver in a motorcade once when Al Gore was in town. The SS had all the vehicles lined up outside the hotel as they were being inspected prior to leaving. A stupid Clevleand cop came over and started yelling and screaming at the drivers, telling us to break up the motorcade. We looked at him like he was crazy (which he had to be), the SS calmed him down. What an idiot.

[YOY]

54. Parma cops are worse

When it comes to racism and corruption.

[OzarkDem]

90. True, they have a bad rep

Is Mayor DePiero making any progress?

[AX10]

60. You're kidding me, right?

Right? A local cop seriously though that he could disrupt the Secret Service? :eyes:

[sarcasmo]

43. Emailed Daily Kos on this subject so they to can get the word out.

[OzarkDem]

45. CORRECTION: Cleveland Heights police, not Cleveland police

Its actually a somewhat affluent, liberal suburb.

Link to Cleveland Heights city hall.

http://www.clevelandheights.com/

[chat_noir]

47. Cleveland Heights Public Relations

[e-mail]

[DemInDistress]

46. isn't Ohio considering jailing citizens who dont produce I.D.?

[nashville_brook]

52. something like this happened to me once

before i had the experience of crazy-ass cop brutality, i wouldn't have believed it was possible. it really opened my eyes.

the fact is, when it's just 'you' and a couple of a 'cops' anything can happen. if they've had a fight with their family or are hungover, and you offend them in some way, crazy shit can happen. as soon as you are 'in the system' and for as long as you are 'in the system' you are screwed. no one will question the cops.

this doesn't surprise me, especially given that it's Cleveland, Ohio.

[pointblank]

55. I worked as a paramedic for four years

and I cant tell you the amount of calls I went on, whether it was at the police station or at a residence, where the patient was under arrest and beaten up/maced...and according to the cops they always had fallen down the stairs. Usually the patient was too scared to disagree with the cops around them, but there were a few instances where I got them alone and found out the truth.

I never reported anything, and sometimes I feel bad about it now that I am away from the job, but at the time, I had to work with these cops a lot and didn't want to make enemies.

The police are a necessary evil IMO, but I think they should screen these guys even harder than they already do. We do not any more Tackleberrys running around with a badge a gun, believe me.

[asthmaticeog]

56. Don't take this too seriously until there's corroboration in other media.

Revolution Books isn't exactly reputable. OTOH, Cleveland Heights cops ARE giant pieces of shit, and have been for about ever, so I'm not saying this isn't true, just consider the source before you jump all over this and rend your garments.

[shance]

57. I called last night to find out what we could do to help Carol.

And I received a very nice message back.

World Cant Wait and Carol are probably going to file suit, but here is the joke of all jokes. The Fascist Ohio police who assaulted and abused Carol, are actually planning to charge her with 2 counts of felony (grand?) and assault. I mean you know how fearful they must have been with a 53 year old woman putting up World Can't Wait posters.

I just called the Cleveland Height City Hall and left a message with the Chief Secretary, asking how this is going to be handled and what penalties will these police face who have assaulted a totally defenseless woman who became surrounded by four cops.

The Ohio Police need to hear from us as well. That this is abuse and these policemen belong behind bars for what they have done to Carol. She was trying to put up posters and they assaulted her.


Call the Cleveland Heights Police at 216-291-3883


Call Cleveland Heights City Hall at 216-291-4444


Please contact us at [e-mail] or 216-633-6200

[Imagevision]

61. Freedom of speech? - Bush's version of Freedom in America - Gestapo tactic

[lady lib]

62. Slam them with phone calls:

Call the Cleveland Heights Police at 216-291-3883

Call Cleveland Heights City Hall at 216-291-4444

[baby_mouse]

63. These policeman have stepped right Outside.

They'd better catch on quick. REAL quick.

[Doctor_J]

65. But don't say this is fascism

we can't call it that until train loads of women like her are being wheeled off to the death camps :eyes:

[Sparkman]

75. U're right! Bush isn't even German? He's Russian mafia.

[Earth_First]

66. Contact Dennis Kucinich

Congressman Dennis Kucinich
[phone]
5983 W 54th St
Cleveland, OH 44129

[phone]
14400 Detroit Ave
Cleveland, OH 44107

[Earth_First]

71. As well as Stephanie Tubbs (D) this is her district...

3645 Warrensville Center Road, Suite 204
Shaker Heights, OH 44122
Telephone: [phone]
Facsimile: [phone]

1009 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone: [phone]
Facsimile: [phone]

[RedEarth]

68. WTF .... sounds like the nazis are in charge in Ohio ..... unbelievable

"...One of the cops says to me, "Shut up or I will kill you!", "I am sick of this anti-Bush shit!" "You are definitely going to the psyche ward." Then somebody calls the EMS, and a fire squad shows up. The cop superviser appears and puts his finger in my face: "I dont like it when people treat my men like this and if you don't obey the law you will suffer the consequences." ..."

what is the world is going on in Ohio...the storm troppers are in charge

[donheld]

70. Welcome to the UFSA

[Greyhound]

97. USFA? n/t

[meisje]

72. Sounds like bullshit, anyone have an actual police report?

This person could be completely insane or not, a little proof would help.

[SteppingRazor]

76. I have to agree...

Given my nigh-obsessive love of the Fourth Amendment, I tend to take a pretty dim view of the authorities in most cases. And I've seen firsthand what police can and will do to protestors -- the FTAA protest in Miami in Nov. 2003 springs immediately to mind -- but I'd really like to see some account of this other than that of the principle participants.

[Sparkman]

79. Clev Hts police won't talk until after Chief returns 3pm. Hospital name?

this is looking like a world can't wait oversight? IF the hospital were quoted, or an attourney made a public statement, or a police report were made available the legitimacy would be stronger.

[shance]

80. Who are you to say its bullshit? Are you saying police do not engage

in abuse towards citizens and/or protestors?

Why don't you call Carol and ask her yourself? The number is there.

[951-Riverside]

81. shance stop calling my house & threatning my family!

...see how easy it is for someone to lie and if I didnt add this part someone would probably have believed it, personally I hate cops but you can't believe everything someone says and vice versa.

[Sparkman]

85. You don't really hate cops,maybe you hate many things you've seen them do?

Hating is bad for the soul, and I have had some bad experiences...lying and worse, but some of my experiences with police have redeemed my view of even the bad one's I've personally experienced. Power can ruin those with badges, but stronger cops can do good things.

[shance]

93. It has nothing to do with hating cops, it is about stopping ABUSE.

Blaming the victim is always easier than looking at the reality of what the victim endured.

There were witnesses, and if they aren't threatened and/or intimidated, they will be able to say what they saw.

There would be no reason for this woman to lie that I can see. However there would be incentive for those who caused her harm.

[Deja Q]

77. I wonder if the tables were turned...

If Mr. Butch hated Clinton, I'd bet real money that he'd be whining "FIRST AMENDMENT!", amongst other things...

[toymachines]

78. I put my flyers up at a college

Security there won't beat me into submission... i hope

[EVDebs]

82. The Cleveland Pain Dealer reports (sorry, couldn't resist) n/t

[greiner3]

83. Damn, and Cleveland is the 'liberal' city in Ohio! n/t

[slaveplanet]

86. The citizens are mostly Dem

The city council and mayor try to play Dem on TV

and the Police ... the only thing the police are liberal with are their use of lies and excuses.

They recently murdered an unarmed suspect teenager while he was in bed, SLEEPING(claim his parents)...his parents let the cops in , they had a warrant.

Lots of gunfire against unarmed suspects last year has caused somewhat of a PR nightmare for the incoming and outgoing mayors...

[we can do it]

87. Why Does This Not Surprise Me At All

[CanOfWhoopAss]

91. I'll donate what I can to the defense fund. Any local news coverage?

[1620rock]

92. Shades of the 60's,the PIGS are back! n/t

[Sparkman]

96. Last night, in San Bernardino (SoCal), video of a Sherruf Depity shooting

an unarmed, prone under point of sherrif's pistol, "suspect" from a traffic incident.
The "suspect" was an Iraq Vet, who survived THREE shots to chest and limbs. The VIDEO from a guy, was sold to KTTV for $5000 and was complete with audio on the Channel 5 news, then all other channels. WHAT A WIERD SHOOTING, very bad out of policy shooting, from my several viewings on different news channels. NO provocation!
Beware people, the cops are as edgy as a long tailed cat in a room full of rockin chairs. If your mexican or black looking, or a long hair. Like the 60's, you're right.

[Glimmer of Hope]

94. No - I searched and could not find any news reports of the incident.

The World Can't Wait web site mentions a possible press conference and law suit. There is also contact information at the bottom of the story.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

98. Ohio huh?

Some things never change... here's a tune and a link for all you DU young-uns.

Ohio
lyrics by Neil Young

--------

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are gunning us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are gunning us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

http://www.thrasherswheat.org/fot/ohio.htm

We just protested longer and more after the pigs shot um down back then.

[Vinnie From Indy]

99. I hope activists learn from this and travel in pairs

one to "poster" and another to video any confrontations from a safe distance or from under cover.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

100. cool idea vinny

how about we travel and carry signs in 10's of thousands, with hundreds video-taping?