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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:03 PM
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Rice Admits U.S. Underestimated Hamas Strength WTF?
What the hell are we paying these people for???

~snip~ "I've asked why nobody saw it coming," Ms. Rice said, speaking of her own staff. "It does say something about us not having a good enough pulse." ~snip~

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/30/international/middleeast/30diplo.html?ei=5094&en=113cc013282442e2&hp=&ex=1138597200&partner=AOL&pagewanted=print

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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:05 PM
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1. What was the title of that PDB, Condi?
Just asking.
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coldiggs Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:06 PM
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2. I think every one was suprised by this.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:06 PM
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3. Same with 9/11. Pattern? n/t


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coldiggs Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:07 PM
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4. you mean that we didnt connect the dots
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:16 PM
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6. As a cover-story, anyway. n/t
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coldiggs Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:17 PM
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8. ?? dont see what your getting at...are you trying to say that this is the
start of somthing???
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coldiggs Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:18 PM
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9. im not going after you i just want to know what you mean
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:49 PM
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15. Sort-of like this.

9/11 = They didn't see it coming.
WMD = We had intelligence that turned out to be faulty.
Civil War/Insurgency = We thought they'd greet us with flowers. :eyes: (Like no one warned them.)
Katrina = They didn't realize the extent or whatever the excuse was.

Then we find out they hadn't adequate resources to figure it out, but didn't.

Why?

Either they're that dumb. Or they more-or-less want things this way, and act dumb as a cover.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:15 PM
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5. But.. but.. but.. the media HAILED her as a rockstar.
:puke:
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:16 PM
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7. The same with the break-up
of the Soviet Union. C*ndi was caught by surprise, even though some of us lesser mortals had figured it was coming.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:26 PM
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10. she should do the right thing and RESIGN for failing the USA
not that many core bushites know the right thing when they see it.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/liberaltshirts.htm
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:28 PM
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11. In fairness everyone was surprised by this
though I haven't a clue why. Fatah was corrupt and inept and Hamas provides services Fatah can't or won't. Of course they did fabulously in the elections.
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coldiggs Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:35 PM
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12. ya no one was predicting this. but again why not
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:02 AM
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19. Hamas fundemental terrorist party.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:38 PM
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13. What is she now? 0 for everthing?
I mean just what has this woman gotten right? Yet, Laura thinks she'd make a GREAT president. Riiiigggghhhtttt.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:55 PM
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17. .
:rofl:

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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:47 PM
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14. This is what happens when when you
cut off 'diplomatic' relations and dialogue. This is called 'cutting of your nose dispite your face'.
Also, I don't understand why anyone would believe that Hamas is less corrupt than Fatah. Looks like another civil war in Palestine as well as Iraq. Maybe this is what Bushco wants? Bush's Road to Peace plan has beaucoup pot holes.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:50 PM
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16. Geez, another surprise and it wasn't even her birthday.
Anyone in midmanagement in the corporate world would be fired for such incompetence.

These people are constantly getting surprised at outcomes and claiming, "Who would have ever thought..."
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-29-06 11:56 PM
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18. Romper Room Realpolitik
Geeze, Condi bamboozled again by those dern ferners ? Whoda thunkit ?

Condi needs to take off the Bismarck uniform, including the hip boots, spike helmet and riding crop, even if they do turn her on, and Douggie Feith needs to turn in his Northwest Frontier Empire Boy costume. Time to put away the toy swords and get schooled, kiddies.
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scab_picker Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:04 AM
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20. Rice admitted she underestimated Hamas Strength because Democrats
in the US never do fight back.  What is it with the Hamas,
when we treat them like dogs they bite back.  When Repugs
treat Americans like dogs we pee all over ourselves and go
apoplectic.
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