Throwin this out there. you can take itor leave it. Is bush behind hamas'

[coldiggs]

Win? Do you think Bush might have riged this thing. Like Last Nov.. ah never mind just one conspiricy theory for a post.
Think about this
Right after the elections everyone was saying hamas had a strong secound. Before the election they were saying hamas would get mabye a third. How do you go from that to 70%. Kind of like how do you go from 4 point down in exit polls to well never mind again I digress. And Sharon getting a stroke right before this whole thing. Lubricating a possible right victory in up coming Isriali election. Lots of dots out there I just cant connect them.

Aww where is my tin hat.

[FormerRepublican]

1. Like payback to the Saudis for their 9/11 adventures?

When it comes to Bush, I put nothing past him. Even looking at the freak makes me ill.

[coldiggs]

2. I know but if he is behind this I think this is the mother of all his shan

anigans

[FormerRepublican]

3. Bush wants to own the ME.

In his mind, the countries over there already don't exist.

[coldiggs]

4. so you dont think what im saying is too crazy?

i been thinking this and been worried that i had finaly lost it.

[FormerRepublican]

5. Is it the first thing I think of when I view the situation? No.

However, we do have Bush in the White House, and he IS the anti-Christ.... So... :shrug:

[coldiggs]

6. ya it is not the first thing i thought but how do you explain going form a

third to 70%

[FormerRepublican]

7. Corruption in Fatah?

[coldiggs]

10. Ya but you think the people on the grond would of been able to pick up an

up swelling of support for a swing like that.

[coldiggs]

8. LOL i wonder if they are using diebold machines to count those votes

in palestine

[CoffeeCat]

9. A talking head on one of the Sunday talk shows, said some interesting...

...things.

I'm sorry I don't remember who said it, but I believe the person was on "This Week."

He mentioned that many people in Israel are VERY angry at the Americans for pushing this
election so quickly. This talking head said that he was in Israel, and that many
were unhappy with Americans for making this election happen when it did, and so hastily.

There are so many questions I have. For one---how is it that our country has so much
power that we can push people into having elections before they really want them to happen?
The second question is...WHY? Why would we be pushing for these elections to happen so
quickly? What was the hurry?

Something is really, really rotten in Denmark.

We benefit from chaos in the Middle East, that's for sure. Right now, the PNAC agenda needs as much Mid-East chaos as possible, because they need justification for additional warmongering. These guys are chomping at the bit to go into Iran.

I'm also wondering about Iran. I remember hearing that the radical who won was a total upset.
Were any somewhat-"modern" or progressive candidates running in Iran? Aren't 70 percent of Iranians very young people--under 30? Most of them want reform. How did this radical status-quo candidate
win, especially when he probably had little support from the majority? Just asking...

[coldiggs]

11. i did not even think about the iran guy

[napi21]

12. Hmmm, I think this is quite a stretch!

I'll buy off on the influence Shrub has in the US. I'll even agree that he could have gotten Blair to conspire with him, but to believe he has any influence in Palastine is over the edge.

[ingac70]

13. I seriously doubt it.

The theocrats winning in Iraq, and now Hamas winning control of the PA has the bubbas that voted for * questioning whether spreading "deomocracy" is worth it!

I'm going to laugh my ass of when Hezbollah wins in a landslide when Lebanon holds their next elections!

[Tristan]

14. ugh..geez

listening to that man (Bush) formulate a sentance makes me wonder how the hell he does anything...

[Skittles]

15. it's painful, Tristan, but lucky you live in the great state of Illinois

how about some sympathy for us Dems in Texas who have had to put up with that incoherent piece of shit for over a decade now

[AntiFascist]

16. Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood....

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/adl/hamas/introduction.html

which has battled and successfully fought against communism, and also provides a convenient foil (not the tin kind) for American neocons. It is the alternative to the PLO, which has aligned itself with socialism:

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/Summaries/V68I4P38-1.htm

The ultimate goal of Hamas is to establish a caliphate. If you consider the caliphate to be headquarted in the spiritual center of Islam: Mecca, which is in Saudi Arabia, then it is not too off-the-wall to consider that the Saudi Royals might have something to do with running the caliphate. Also consider the relationship of the Bush family to the Saudis and the fact that the Kingdom Holding Company has bought into Disney (including ABC News), Time-Warner (including CNN), and Fox as well as Citibank.

Again, this is not tin foil stuff, its there for anyone to read about.

[sadiesworld]

17. I've been having similar thoughts...

particularly after learning about another "we never anticipated this" moment from Rice. A lot of linkage b/t Hamas and Iran being discussed as well.

Of course, I don't stray far without my trusty :tinfoilhat: anymore.

:shrug:

[BuyingThyme]

18. Makes sense to me.

But, then again, I'm stuck in some kind of time warp.

[applegrove]

19. I agree with you that neocons have no desire to see Israel safe

and back to the 1967 borders. But - no - don't think for a second they wanted to see democracy turn out Islamic & radical & fundie & suicide bombing.

I think they truly want to see Hamas come to the table and act as a civilian government rather than what the worst fears are.