Does anyone know what will be the purpose of detention

[mmonk]

centers which KBR has gotten the contract to build is for?

[BanzaiBonnie]

1. Detention center?

Where? Any leads to more info on this?

[mmonk]

13. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2062553

[converted_democrat]

15. I personally don't think its for immigrants...

(This is a snip from the link you provided above)

"The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., "or to support the rapid development of new programs, KBR said."

First off- What would an emergency influx be? That really could only come from Mexico, or Canada.. We are building a huge wall across the Mexican border, the legislation was just past a short time ago, so that will not even be an issue within a few years.. And I doubt that there will be a mass influx from Canada, because as of recently they have it just as good, if not better than we do here in the states..

This is the key, in my opinion, to the whole paragraph--"or to support the rapid development of new programs, KBR said."

What are these "new programs" and why would the have to be rapidly developed?

The other big reason why I don't think it has a thing to do with immigration is because the pukes that are in charge LOVE immigrants.. Give me a second here, and I'll explain- (I grew up a puke, and most of my family still is puke. I understand the mindset real well.) The pukes that are in charge, are the pukes that have money.. They love immigrants, especially illegal ones because they can make them work for slave wages, and if they ever get out of line, they threaten them with deportation, or worse, and they know that they can get away with it, because there is no one to hold them in account on behalf of the illegal.. This is a dream situation to them.. They are in charge, and they carry enough weight that no one will take this from them anytime in the foreseeable future.. Their businesses would fail, because they would have much higher overhead.. They aren't going to do a thing about illegals.. Poorer pukes on the other hand hate illegals with a passion because the rich pukes have led them to believe that the immigrants are the ones that are taking all of their jobs.. You'll see lots of puke politicians pander to the poorer pukes position, but when it comes right down to it little if anything will ever be done, because the pukes that are in charge will just not let it happen.. Poorer pukes are just that.. They are poor.. They have no money, and in reality, the rich pukes see them with the same amount of disdain that they do any other group that doesn't have any money.. Long story short this isn't about immigration in my opinion.. The pukes in charge have too much to lose if the illegals had to go, or were even locked up..

I really think this is what it's about-
"or to support the rapid development of new programs, KBR said."

We just have to figure out what those new programs are..

[HereSince1628]

2. They are part of the final solution for the Illegal Immigration problem.

I wish I were kidding.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

3. I wish you were kidding too

and since there is NO solution to economic migration (or illegal immigration, if you prefer) save reforms, it is a sad joke which will smash many lives.

[mmonk]

4. What makes you say that?

Any info?

[HereSince1628]

6. The contract is WITH the agency that prosecutes illegal immigrants

What do you suppose they are for?

[mmonk]

7. Oh

All I knew is they got a contract to build them.

[converted_democrat]

16. See post 15..

There is no way that they will lock up illegals.. The pukes in charge have way to much money to lose if that were to happen.. The pukes that are in charge..Read that-- The pukes that matter, and have money, LOVE illegals..

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. Wouldn't it be more effective

to crack down on the corps and people that hire illegals? Oh no, we can't do that now, can we?

[mmonk]

9. No

that would mess up the cheap labor plan and of course, the no regulations plan as well.

[HereSince1628]

10. Personally, I think the corps are working hard to solve the problem

Every job that goes to the third world helps lower American opportunities toward that of the third world and reduces the motivation to immigrate.

Another decade of the present activity and the only reason for an illegal immigrant to move into Wisconsin will be that they like the weather.

[BiggJawn]

5. Well, a Ditto-Head wrote a LTTE yesterday...

...stating that HE had nothing to hide "from GAWD, the Gubbmint, OR my Wife...", and that anyone who opposes Bush's spying is a "Traitor and needs to be charged as such"...

Well, Mr. Dan Hicks of Mulberry, Indiana, put me at the top of your list, right after that printshop owner from Philadelphia who said something about giving up freedom for the illusion of safety...

Maybe that's what KBR's camps are being built for.

[woodsprite]

11. That's what I'm thinking too.

In truth, they really like the illegal immigrants because that where they get their cheap labor, don't need to provide the benefits, etc.

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. That's why they want to put them in camps

just like the Nazis.

[converted_democrat]

17. That doesn't make much sense..

Why would they put them in camps when they are needed in the day to day functions of running a company?? They LOVE illegals.. They have too much to lose by locking them up.. See post #15.

[BiggJawn]

19. Flip burgers all day, sleep behind the razor wire all night.

You don't think they're gonna let them (or us) just sit there, being useless eaters, do you?

[converted_democrat]

20. That makes no sense..

There are so many business that use illegals.. No way could they lock them up and then have them back in time for work.. They are needed on a daily basis in 50 states.. No way they could lock them up, and then have them ready to go to work everyday.. Not gonna happen..

My dad is a rich puke- If he had to choose between his lefty daughter being locked up, or his illegal labor-- He'd pick me.. He loves his cheap labor, and he'd fight tooth and nail anyone that tried to take it from him..

[BiggJawn]

24. You're looking at future events through the filter of the present.

Where do those illegals go after work? Home, right?
In the Brave New World, they will be gathered up at the end of the day and taken to the camps, their NEW home.

As for your ReTHUG dad, he'd love it even more when he's told that they will collect his illegals every night and bring them back in the morning, all at NO COST to hem. Hell, he won't even have to pay them the $3 an hour he currently does.

[converted_democrat]

25. But that isn't how it works...

Most employers I know already use their own rental properties, or a rental property of a friend to house them... They can keep a close eye on them, and they can keep them within stones throw to where they are needed to work..(Plus there is profit to it) That's the way it is for the big corp owners I know, and the same for most farms that use illegal migrant help.. They don't want the government in on that.. And they don't want to "share" their labor, or have to use whoever the government say they can on a whim.. The big business owners of this country would never have it, and they are the ones running the show...

[DoYouEverWonder]

21. Work camps

Then they don't have to pay them anything.

[converted_democrat]

22. But they don't want that...

They want them for their own personal use to do the jobs they don't want to do.. No way they would lock them up.. If they have to go pick them up every time they want a job done, that would put a crimp in their plans.. They are at their employers beck and call the way it is.. Rich pukes would never let this happen.. Think about it really.. The most powerful group in the country would not want this to happen.. It would be against their own interest.. You're not thinking your position through very well.. My Dad is a rich puke.. He'd throw a bigger fit about his slave labor being locked up than he would about his lefty daughter being locked up.. This would NEVER fly..

on edit- They already have slave labor for corps.. It's our prison system.. They would never lock illegals up.. They might try to put more people in prison, but they are not going to lock the illegals up..

[ronnie624]

26. By the time the Neo Cons and corporatists have achieved

their goals they will have no need for "illegal immigrants" as a cheap labor source. They will have a ready supply in this country.

[converted_democrat]

27. I don't believe that for a second..

I'm not trying to upset anyone by saying this, but I'm going to say it anyway.. Illegals have a hell of a work ethic.. I'll leave it at that, but they have a hell of a work ethic.. Alot of people in this country lack that.. They work hard, and they work cheap.. They aren't as replaceable as you think..

On edit- Don't get me wrong, there are hard economic times coming.. But these particular people aren't that easy to replace..

[ronnie624]

28. My intention was not to criticize the "work ethic"

of immigrants, but to point out that in the not to distant future there will be many, many people without jobs.

[converted_democrat]

29. Oh, I realize that.. I'm just saying.. Even if a guy is starving, that

does not automatically mean he'll be a hard worker.. Illegals have a work ethic that very few can compete with.. Plus, they don't complain.. There will lots of people out of work, but that isn't a threat to illegals..

[BiggJawn]

30. OK, you've sold me...

Gawd-Dam! Who do *I* call to get me some of them hard-working Illegals? they can keepo my place clean, a good spread on the table, work for nothing and they can sleep in the abandoned garage next door!

Can't get those lazy-assed Anglos to work under conditions like that.

[converted_democrat]

31. That isn't what I'm talking about and you know it.....

When it comes to business, that's just the way it is.. I said earlier, I used to be a puke, and I know how they think.. What I'm saying is harsh, but it doesn't make it any less true.. Illegals will work harder, and for alot less money.. They are not easily replaced..

[Media_Lies_Daily]

14. Why are MORE detention centers needed when we already have REX 84?.....

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84>

There are already about 800 of these camps nationwide.

[fed-up]

18. They are getting ready for the "bird flu" to hit the USA n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. Ridding Amerika of the lesser breeds. Buchenwald in Arizona?

Or, Oranienburg? Bergen-Belsen?

"Give me your poor..." Yeah, right.