Curran of Roll Call on CSPAN--Dean failure as fundraiser

[Skidmore]

and Emmanuel and others are REALLY UPSET with him and told him he needs to shape up or go. Is this true? And if some DUer who knows otherwise for sure can call in this morning to correct this infomration, it would be a great rapid response.

[vi5]

1. I don't have any links but this has been debunked several times over

I'm sure someone has a link. But when you compare Dean's numbers now to similar times in the past he's waaaaaay ahead of the curve. Plus, it's skewed because he's also letting state parties keep more of their money when he comes in for fundraisers.

[Skidmore]

2. But it's being reported as news again.

I can't call in from where I am. It needs to be debunked again.

[vi5]

14. I wouldn't worry about it...

We need to stop getting ourselves all enraged over what is said on shows with next to no audiences, and whose minimal audiences are already partisan one way or another. It accomplishes nothing more than to give people the ability to claim that they shouted loudest that day. It does nothing to convince anyone, and even if it convinced every person in the viewing audiences of these shows it would have zero impact.

[ProfessorGAC]

3. Just Remember With Whom Curran Has Worked In The Past

Chuck Todd and Ed Gillespie were coworkers and pals. So, take what he says with a grain of salt.
The Professor

[leftchick]

4. I didn't know that!

It makes perfect sense now. :grr:

[ProfessorGAC]

6. Todd, Gillespie, and Curran

They were all contempories at either Hotline or Roll Call. And, Todd worked with David Brock when they were both journalistic hatchet men. Todd shared an office with Brock. One of them has turned from the Dark Side. The other just pretends to be a real journalist now. And, we all know where Gillespie ended up.

The Professor

[Skidmore]

7. Now is not the time for a simple "consider the source"

mindset. We need to be vigilant and jump on top of misinformation and propoganda before it can gain traction.

[ProfessorGAC]

9. Is That What I Said?

Where did you get that from?
The Professor

[Skidmore]

10. Sorry, It just seemed the logical point at which to tag a

response about sources and responses after reading through the entire thread. Nothing personal, just a comment.

[ProfessorGAC]

12. Here's How I Meant It

I was just making sure the OP knew that these folks are republican shills, including Curran. And, since the OP replied they did not know that, i figured it was important that they found out.

And in this particular case, only people in the beltway could give a penny of thought about Roll Call. Go to D.C. some time. You'll find lots of copies in the trash of the metro stations! It's diposable news, even with the beltway!

The Professor

[rooboy]

5. Isn't Roll Call the rag of Mort Kondracke (of Fox News Fame)?? n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

8. See My Post

Ed Gillespie and Chuck Todd worked there too, until they spun off Hotline.

The Professor

[KharmaTrain]

11. C-SPAN....Astroturf Central

I'll ask again if C-SPAN has addressed the report by F.A.I.R. about their right wing bias? <crickets>

They're a little better lately...but that's incrimental, this network was and still operates as a pro-Conservative/pro-Business and Pro-Repugnican conduit and Curran is a toadie that serves in that operation. Ed Henry, now with CNN, served that role prior to Curran.

This is where the talking points for the hate radio and talking heads get out first and often. If it isn't coded in Curran's message, it's passed on by the guests or the callers. If there's a spin to get out, this place is where you'll catch it first, and you can just watch it spread throughout the day.

[Skidmore]

13. That's where it needs to be stopped.

[leftchick]

15. I heard one of the gals, Connie?, a couple of weeks ago

It was the one with the glasses. She said c-span had addressed the article and did not agree with it in respnse to a caller. I think she lied.

[KharmaTrain]

16. Look Into C-SPAN's Background

My first red flags went up when I Googled and found that one of the "non-partisan" hosts was on the board responsible for issuing the press credentials that ended up in Jeff Gannon's hands.

Brian Lamb worked for the Nixon/Ford administration and several of the other hosts have their roots in the "think tanks" and other organizations planted by the Repugnican party in the 70s and 80s to fund what is now a very elaborate, sophisticated and efficient propaganda machine. Initially the network was designed to offer a right wing view of events...something that really wasn't being presented (but then neither was left wing, either) in the pre-Faux days.

Now its role has changed...it's a very passive conduit, but a conduit nonetheless. What other morning news program cites the Moonie Washington Slimes as a legitimate news source?

Cheers...

[ProfessorGAC]

18. Susan Swain Worked For The RNC Press Office Too

That's traceable through the archives here.
The Professor

[KharmaTrain]

19. Stuff On Peter, Too

As always, Professor, you're support is appreciated.

:hi:

[leftchick]

22. thank you for the information

despite Brian's denials he is an obvious RW shill. I was not aware of the other hosts' backgrounds but it certainly makes sense. The repeated use of the moonie times as well as the Weekly Standard has always infuriated me. Can you imagine the outrage from RW whack jobs if they relied on The Nation , MoJo or Harpers as sources?

[LizW]

17. If the DLCers push Dean out of the Chairmanship, he WILL be drafted

for a presidential run in 2008.

Part of me wishes that would happen. But putting my personal wishes aside, Dean is GOOD for the Democratic Party, and someone is lying about the fundraising. Even if fundraising was down (it's not) the blame doesn't lie with Dean, it lies with uninspiring Democrats who don't stand for anything, but constantly bombard us with requests for donations.

Don't they listen to what we say when they call? I tell them every time that I am donating to individual Democrats that inspire me with their leadership and willingness to fight for what is right.

Maybe they're blaming Dean for that because he has always urged us to donate to state and local candidates. Maybe that's what they're pissed about. Of course they would rather control the flow of cash from the top down. But if so, they are just wrongheaded. Dean has always said we have to build the party in every state, and that's what those local donations do.

[King Coal]

20. LOL! You couldn't tell it by me. I've given more to Dean that anyone ever.

[mandyky]

21. Connie on CSpan just asked Stern

if he was sorry he endorsed Dean. The media is up to something... or the RNC is sending oout talking points again...