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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:03 AM
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"We can't leave Iraq NOW!" was always part of the BushCo strategy
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 10:16 AM by Atman
I just heard some woman on CNN -- supposedly an average Josephine BushCo supporter on Main Street, America -- parroting the republican mantra re: pulling out of Iraq. "We can't just leave now! We have to at least finish what we started!"

Bingo. And this is probably old news to many DUers, but I just want to remind some of those who may lose site of this fact when righties are pulling this shit on them. Bush played a common, basic strategy that can be very effective in getting one's way, especially if you're a grade-school child stealing cookies; it is often far easier to apologize after than to seek permission before. Especially if you're the pathological sort, like W. Asking the permission of a bunch of lowly congressmen is beneath a member of the Bush Family. These Bush people envision themselves world leaders, quite literally. Unilaterally. Unitary. Joe Schmuckface (R-Bumfuck) congressman could be dealt with, because nothing was going to stand in the way of what Bush already decided to do. And Bush knews that he had to at least formally ask permission, but he also knew he never had any intention of actually abiding by anything but an affirmative outcome for him. It would have been even easier not to have had to ask at all, but he did and just went on with his plans, knowing full well no flowers or cake-walks awaited our troops. But once he was there, our boys his proxies, knee-deep in bodies in Baghdad and Fallujah, the "apologize" phase kicks in, easy-schmeezy, Bush got what he wanted. He's there, just like he wanted. Halliburton and Exxon-Mobile are swimming in OUR cash, just like they wanted.

And a chorus of democrats and republicans alike sing out "But we can't just pull out NOW! We have to finish what we started!" once again handing Bush exactly what he wanted; a reward for his lying and manipulation, the most gruesome of trophies, dead American soldiers atop mountains of cash. You can't correct a mistake if you won't stop making it in the first place. BushCo has no intention of stopping his mistake, because he knows he won't be held accountable.

After all, he said "Oops, my bad! Hehehehe!" What more do the American people think they deserve, anyway?
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:12 AM
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1. decades worth of oil in Iraq.....
oh where can we find a new "Shah of Iraq"?

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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:30 AM
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2. The dems have helped them every step of the way
and we aren't supposed to talk about how we got there?.. doesn't matter now? Bushco is doing the same damn thing on Iran now. And the dems are helping them AGAIN!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:35 AM
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3. I don't know if I buy that
I think it's true in the sense that it does play into Bush's little drama, but I also think you need to be able to step outside of it.

Put the president aside for a moment and ask yourself if the situation would be better off staying until they are back on their feet or leaving as soon as possible. That is at least debatable.

Now if you come to the conclusion that, independent of Bush, staying in Iraq and finishing the job would be better for us and the Iraqi people, does putting Bush back into the equation change it? We need to abandon Iraq, in order to deny Bush a victory?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:40 AM
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4. Now that we started the fire we have to stay and pour gas on it.
BushCorp and their Dem allies who voted for the war and continue to support the occupation are determined to stay until they can safely cover their sorry asses by proclaiming victory. aka - "Peace with honor".

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:00 PM
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6. I agree. Why Rove told the Brits that they had until 2004 to sign onto
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 01:02 PM by applegrove
an invasion of Iraq. So Bush could run as War President.

If you read Assassin's Gate - you see how often Rummy et all made mistakes - just as something was going right on the ground in Iraq. And now - all of a sudden, with an election coming up in a year... now there are negotiations with the insurgents.

I don't think Dems helped them every step of the way. I think the Dems were fooled - gave the benefit of the doubt - and then tried to fix the mess. I think it was just this fall that Dems realized ... that the timing and the repeated failures in plans and actions in Iraq... were too convenient. So they put the WH on a time-line. And now peace will happen.

Politically perfect for the Bush regime to claim "victory". But the war will be over. And the Repukes lost one thing. They wanted Americans to have fun with war and learn to love it (hey - you are not sacrificing anything - what fun!). What dreams of perpetual war would require in a populace. And that failed. And then the truth of the lies came out.

So - the Repukes will have a hard time running on "we won" when they were incompetent. Are they going to now say "we meant to be incompetent - that is half the toolkit of neocons"?

The Repukes lost that.

But I don't know. Still speculation.

We shall find out more. Who else will talk now that peace is more likely? Cause lots of people are putting it together now.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:26 PM
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5. it's all coming out
the new big PR push by the tyrant won't work... he's going to take a fall.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 04:25 PM
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7. Nov 2006 elections. Then adults will be in charge. And show Americans
the difference.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 04:36 PM
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8. Why can't SHE finish what "we" started? Or her kids?
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