This is about the leftleaning blogs and their campaign against Kerry.

[blm]

Americablog, mydd, and Liberal Oasis are being dishonest and parroting RW talking points against Kerry.

Why did they decide accurate information is not useful in their arguments against Kerry's decision to filibuster?

How many times does one pull out Scotty McLellan's lies about skiing in Davos and windsurfing to attack Kerry? I thought these blogs wanted to FIGHT the RW spin machine, not parrot it.

Kerry did not WANT to lead the filibuster. He had longtime plans to be in Davos on Senate business for the Finance Committee, along with about ten other senators. He was then scheduled for a major speech in Ireland. He cancelled ALL OF IT after NO ONE ELSE WOULD STAND WITH KENNEDY.

The only reason he stuck his neck out last Thursday was because NO ONE ELSE WOULD STAND WITH KENNEDY TO DO IT.

It should have been a Judiciary Committee member leading this fight. I doubt any of the blogs would be attacking that senator today IF he/she had chosen to stand with Kennedy.

They didn't. Kerry did.

He will suffer the slings and arrows from 99% of the media and many of the leftleaning blogs are rushing to add their arrows, too. He has everything to lose and nothing to gain, but standing up to do the right thing.

Just like he did in BCCI.

And just like in BCCI, the media paints him as the exact opposite of what he is because it protects the powers that be to distract from the real crimes being committed - except this time there is no media at all willing to report the truth with accuracy - not even bloggers who claim truth while spreading lies..

[autorank]

1. Kerry's Destiny: Finish the job he started with BCCI. Bring it down!

I'm stunned that any bolg is sowing dissension in the midst of this most historic event.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE DEMOCRATS HAVE STOOD UP TO BUSH SINCE, WELL, SINCE 2001.

ATTENTION NAYSAYERS AND DOUBTERS, BOULEVARD INTELLECTUALS:

LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY.

[samhsarah]

6. Well that about says it all.

Put up or shut up.

[understandinglife]

9. So true.

Peace.

[zippy890]

34. with you on that!

:thumbsup:

[WildEyedLiberal]

38. Lead, follow, or get out of the way

Fuckin' amen.

[bryant69]

2. We aren't a very forgiving people

A guy like Kerry has made mistakes; we can all list a few of them. But somehow we blow up those mistakes enormously, and ignore the many times he's stood on principle and in the best traditions of our party.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[bigtree]

4. and still stands with us

[blm]

26. People who never make mistakes never stick their necks out themselves

from what I've observed over these many years.

[FreedomAngel82]

3. Hear hear!

They're underestamating Kerry.

[w13rd0]

5. I was not a fan of Kerry during the primaries...

...but dammit, my political journey has been a long walk. I voted for Gore in 2000 grudgingly, but came to strongly support him during the recount, and learned I was lied to by the media. I registered as a Democrat thanks to Dean, and now, following 2004, I'm very much appreciating Kerry's efforts today. Blocking this nomination would be a MAJOR COUP. It'll rally the base, it will make fools of the media and their constant spinning for the WH, it's the RIGHT THING to do.

I reject the attempts to demonize our Democratic representatives. They can be persuaded to stand up and do the right thing. There are very few Republicans that the same can be said for.

[blm]

28. Looks like the media lost another one for us. Some Dem senators believe

the media hype.

[Lorien]

31. I'm not about to blame the media for this one. This has DLC written

all over it.

[LittleClarkie]

33. I wish Kerry would finally get his name off their rolls

They're not in favor of him. In fact, I fear they sabotaged him in 2004. He's never truly been one of them. From doesn't even like him from what I can tell.

So I wish he'd just finally ask them to take him off.

[blm]

36. Media informed the Dem votes - with constant lies about polls and opinion

that said there would be a backlash against Dems. Media defined Dems as skunks while Alito and his wife were heroic. No substantive issues were discussed.

[madfloridian]

7. Agreed. We have got to stop tearing each other apart in this party.

Whenever we have the Republicans down, we never go for the final knockdown..instead we attack each other.

Recommended.

[LittleClarkie]

35. And now some are saying that they won't donate to the DNC

anymore, cancelling their Democracy bonds and such.

Which seems like cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. Dean needs help if we are finally going to get a Dem majority back. Cutting funding is not going to help him rebuild the party.

I don't understand why cutting his funding should be a response to this vote. Dean supported the fillibuster.

[KC21304]

8. Thank you blm, for telling it like it is, again.

I'm very disappointed in what has been happening in the blogs mentioned.

[understandinglife]

10. Thank you for this outstanding post. I hope Skinner places it on the DU

... homepage.


Peace.

[blm]

25. I don't expect him to. It might anger them in a way that he shouldn't

have to deal with.

[babylonsister]

11. I hope the people at Americablog, mydd, and Liberal Oasis

read this and are shamed.
Great post, blm.

[MH1]

42. Hope...

won't go far with these people.

After reading their tripe, I figure they have no shame.

If they decide making nice with Kerry will improve their blogging revenues, then they might think about it. But since at least one of those is already affiliated with (as in being paid by) another potential 2008 candidate, I'm not expecting anything to improve.

[rman]

12. Are there no leftleaning blogs that support the filibuster?

I think the blogs you mention are pretenders, RW organizations that think they can gain credibility with the Left by putting a left-wing label on themselves.

[mtnsnake]

13. Miles O'brien rolled his eyes at Kerry, the Dems, & the filibuster thing

a few days ago when some rightwinger he was interviewing mocked the Dems for their filibuster attempt. It was pretty sad

[blm]

23. Even sadder when leftleaning blogs do the same as Freeper Miles.

.

[lala_rawraw]

14. For the same

reason they have done everything else they have done n/t:( sadly

[seabeyond]

16. wrong, but this is what rawstory continues to say

over and over and over. which is exactly what blm was talking

[lala_rawraw]

18. huh?

[blm]

19. I think your post was misread.....

passions running high today, I guess.

[lala_rawraw]

20. seemingly... but at least nice to know where

people's true opinions fall.. wow

[Helga Scow Stern]

15. Reminds me of the vicious attacks on doubts about the 2004 election

You'd think some of these people are on Rove's payroll. Either that or just so "proudly ineffectual" that they don't really want anything to happen or they would have to find a new schtick.

[LittleClarkie]

30. This whole thing reminded me of 2004 too much

Watching the GOP make fun of a good man. Hoping against hope for a good outcome. Flashbacks. Blah.

[seabeyond]

17. the man stands up, and speaks out. he listened to the people

what everyone on this board is yelling for. and then they diss him. and they do it in made up stories. right next to the repugs and media.

shame

[sandnsea]

21. Perhaps eyes will be opened

and more people will understand that they must always stand back and literally QUESTION EVERYTHING and not presume individuals are always right just because they stick liberal on their forehead.

[blm]

22. Yep - we saw how well that worked out when David Horowitz played the left

for so long.

[mzmolly]

24. Makes ya wonder.

Thanks BLM.

[blm]

27. Back at ya, mzmolly.

.

[blm]

29. Add Wonkette to the list of assholes parroting Scotty McLellan.

Arrogant assholes DON'T CARE ABOUT THE LIES THEY SPREAD. Alito's confirmation will never bother certain rich people of little social conscienceness.

[LittleClarkie]

32. But why did it have to be Kerry (whine)

He's not doing it right! He started it too late. Or two soon. Or something. And why did it have to be Kerry. We don't like Kerry. We want someone else! How about Boxer? Kerry's a flipflopping, conceding DLCer corporatist sellout. We didn't have the votes anyway. He only did this for his own gain.

(I gotta interrupt myself here. So the time to call for a fillibuster is when you know you have the votes? What's the point there? Where would be the fight? What would be the risk of calling for a fillibuster if you know you have the votes?)

Anyway, it's more important for some folks to oppose Kerry no matter what he does than it is to fight for liberal issues. I mean, hell, I supported Hillary in her plantation comment.

Does supporting someone in an endeavor mean that you are inadverently helping them with their presidential campaign? Should that be a concern? Are we going to let that kind of factionalism prevent us from fighting the good fight when someone we don't particularly like is leading that fight?

Shit, no wonder the Dem Party has "issues".

[undeterred]

37. Feingold is on the Judiciary committee

and if the Patriot Act offended him enough to vote against it, I can't imagine why Alito didn't offend him enough to lead the charge against him. Feingold should have stepped up to the plate- that would have shown the leadership we're looking for from a future president on his part.

[WildEyedLiberal]

39. We can all thank them for their pro-Alito coverage now

When Alito tries to dismantle separation of powers, we can (not so) kindly remind Americablog, myDD, and Liberal Oasis that helped Alito reach the court. You reap what you sow, assholes. Shameful.

[NastyRiffraff]

40. In all fairness....

There were some liberal blogs who very much supported Kerry and the fillibuster. Two that come to mind:

Firedoglake
Hullaballoo (Digby)

I'm sure there are others. Digby took a lot of grief in his comments because of this very issue.

[WildEyedLiberal]

41. It just shows the desperation of the freepers

Firedoglake and Digby were real liberal troopers - the scum that posted at Digby's blog were beyond contempt.

[Stand and Fight]

43. Kicked and recommended...

I'm very tired of all of the Kerry bashing, and I stand behind he and Ted Kennedy 100%. They did the right thing and anyone who has a problem with them taking a stand ought to go to hell.

[Kolesar]

44. I don't know what the blogs said and I probably don't care

I had better things to do yesterday also, so I missed all this. I am surely not going to go over to myDD or Americablog and figure what was irritating you. I have better things to do.

[PATRICK]

45. How the focus blurs into true double vision

Why on earth would anyone settle on Kerry as a focus of concern? What happened to the Chimperor and Alito? The main problem is that the party has not yet hashed out its problems as one of a few vitally important issues after two fraudulent presidential electoral defeats. One big one is the lack of change in those who don't back the progressive surge needed to.. do anything and everything.... Their own legacy is just this idiotic lack of focus that thinks the energized base is THE enemy of THEIR Democratic party.
The idiotic bi-partisans living in substantial irrelevance in a practically applied dictatorship are the abused wives of this administration, in turn aching so much to turn their abuse on the patient liberal activists who want the party to succeed.

These are the people who did not really back and hurt Gore and Clinton. These are the ones without a bi-partisan coalition that was supposed to form and challenge Bush. Never got off the ground in 2001. these are the ones representing the minority of Americans still supporting the war, looking for spine among focus groups of lukewarm swing voters who could turn against them at the sound of one buzzword. These are the ones who should have stepped aside, as some of them said, instead of whining bitterly like dispossessed princes or castle lords ready to eject rowdy tenants. By sticking around apparently their disease is catching. Remaining relevant by attacking their own while bowing to Bush and drinking the Koolaid with the fizzy bubbles in expensive wine glasses.

Old style liberal writers and publications relished savaging the more docile champions of the conflicted party instead of naming the evil, defining the lie. it is a catching disease. Those still watching the media MUST always begin to sway to the hypnotic rhythm of authority and propaganda. It is catching.

It is apparent that the enthusiasm for the filibuster was not thought out fast enough. That the timely approach was slow still as most public pressure is. The terrible split in the party made this issue DOA, but Kerry came forward anyway as best he could, as Gore finally did, as best he could. Apparently no one there here or elsewhere is on time or target enough to do any better. had we done better all the pressure would have fallen on them before their meeting- instead of misplacing trust again in the GOP Senate wing of the Democratic party to join with the greater half.

We have good people. Kerry was good and would have no doubt been an excellent president if he had somehow pulled together the means for protecting election integrity. The GOP is falling all over itself in selfish criminality and chaos lit by the sole voice of mentally insufficient, corrupt authority. The Democratic Congress must hash out its own problems and the popular activist groupings of the public majority must stop interfering with its own united desire to save America. There will be no democracy or party by default, or any shining new collection of infallible messiahs. We must all do our best and support each other and scorn the failing of thinking mainly of ourselves. To live. To be free. To act in sure hope. We must maintain the public majority, election or not, and put the GOP on the run from America.

[Skidmore]

46. Did it ever occur to anyone that some of those blogs might just

be run by RNC operatives?

[rman]

47. It occurred to me that i'd have to check out those blogs

and form my own opinion.

It looks like the consensus on americablog and liberaloasis is that Alito is bad news and that an attempt to filibuster is warranted.

Sure some posters on those blogs tout RW talking points - but those kind of posters are everywhere, including on DU.

[blm]

48. It's the operators of the blogs who attacked Kerry using RW talking points

.

[WildEyedLiberal]

49. Wouldn't surprise me

Yes, they've been around for a long time, but how voiceferous is their support on the really vital issues? How hard did they campaign for Kerry in 2004?

They are good at mastering the feel good liberal talking points, but when really important issues come up, you'll find them trashing Democrats/liberals and doing their part to sabotage a liberal victory.